On May 6, 2007, at 24:37 , William Stein wrote:
[snip]
>   (1) do the pages look:
>      -- visually appealing
>      -- simple and clean
>      -- convey all the necessary information (i.e., I'm not missing
>          key things that used to be there)

Overall, it looks good.  I think it's worth experimenting with losing  
the 'alternate' links at the top and bottom of the page.  By  
comparison, I think Tim's version is not as effective (and as it  
stands, it certainly doesn't play well with Safari).

I agree with David that the wording is strongly suggestive of a  
connection with Ron Popeil.  Maybe I was wrong about saying "As seen  
on TV!" :-}.

>   (2) does the text on the front page reasonably convey what
>        SAGE is to somebody who say has never heard of programs
>        like GAP and PARI, and just wants to know if SAGE might
>        be for them?

"Make no compromises" does not relate to Mathematics; maybe something  
like "Experiment with and study a wide range of Mathematics".

>   (3) Does the front page text seem to much like sales talk?
>        Compared to Maple or Mathematica's web pages it's nothing
>        (those pages are gut-wrenchingly obnoxious),
>        but it might still be too much.

As above.

The bullet "Use an open free alternative" could be changed to avoid  
'alternative', since "your favorite open source software" is mentioned.

>   (4) I've purposely went from clean and simple, even more so
>        than before, instead of say tricky drop downs css menus, etc.,

I like the overall design.  A couple of comments:

   - as above, do we need the top and bottom links, especially those
     that duplicate prominently placed ones?

   - Maybe put 'News' links after the title and links box?

   - "... most any ..."?? (third 'bullet')

   - Change 'Use a modern ...": I'd lose 'modern'; also, I think the
     "notebook" aspect of the GUI is worth highlighting, so include it
     in the bullet: "Create notebooks with a web-based graphical  
interface"?

   - "Be curious" - I'd reverse mentioning "??" and "?".  Many will be
     interested in *what* is done; fewer in *how* it's done.

   - Change the 'Download' bullet: "Download SAGE for Windows, Mac OS  
X, Linux"
     and then mention downloading and building from source in the  
discussion.
     (Oh, and the 'Download' page should say "Mac OS X", not "Apple  
OS X" :-})

Justin

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