William,

It appears that you answered to that question before I asked it.

Thank you very much! That was very useful.

With this version of m SAGE produces (odd) magic squares faster than Octave,

octave:1> t=cputime();a=magic(201);cputime()-t
ans = 0.32800
octave:2> t=cputime();a=magic(1001);cputime()-t
ans = 4.1410

Alec 



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