BTW I don't mean that any of you would need to create the code for the
server. I just mean that once I get one going with Twisted I will need
a place to run it and I can not use the web host that I will use for
SAGE Classroom for it.

On 2/6/07, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So will someone set up a server for me at say UW where I can send the
> computation and the output and have some server status tools also?
>
> On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Knock yourself out, buddy.  Sounds like a grand idea.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Timothy Clemans wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > My idea is to have an API system like Google does for search, maps,
> > > ... where the webmaster has a lot of control and Google does the
> > > backend work. So all I would need is a SAGE backend server that
> > > someone would let me have access to for a project like Classroom SAGE.
> > >
> > > On 2/6/07, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Why not just write the notebook in Python or PHP using mod_PHP or
> > >>
> > >> Ask Tom Boothby!
> > >> Wink-Wink!! :)
> > >>
> > >>> mod_python in Apache and just create a sage worker server? This way
> > >>> could setup a notebook and use SSH to talk a the worker server. The
> > >>> worker server would do all the SAGE computations.
> > >>>
> > >>> This way I could host my notebook using a standard web host that
> > >>> supports PHP or Python , and mysql. The worker server would be hosted
> > >>> by the University of Washington.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/6/07, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On 2/6/07, William Stein < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Hi,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Regarding all the notebook discussion, I think it is great to make
> > >>> > > a list of entries about the notebook in trac server.  But I do *not*
> > >>> > > think we should we should implement any of them (unless they are
> > >>> > > trivial), until the notebook is transitioned over to use the
> > >>> > > twisted "web2" web server, since the implementations will probably
> > >>> > > have to change.    Transitioning to twisted is a much more pressing
> > >> issue
> > >>> > > with the notebook, and it probably won't happen until Tom, Alex,
> > >>> > > me or somebody else gets some time to do it.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I agree that it is probably not a good idea to add more features to
> > >>> > the current SAGE notebook.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Instead a well though out rewrite in Twisted is something I really 
> > >>> > want.
> > >>> > Dealing with important issues like security/access is something I have
> > >> spent
> > >>> > a lot of my personal time working on.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The Twisted web2 stuff in not completely mature, and to really getting
> > >>> > going you must climb a *steep* learning curve if you are not already a
> > >>> > networking guru.
> > >>> > (read the Twisted-web mailing list, this is the general consensus).
> > >>> > That said Twisted is very powerful, and I think it is worth the climb,
> > >>> > which I myself am still working on :)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Alex
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > By the way, whoever wants to work on the twisted transition should
> > >>> > > definitely look at the MoinMoin twisted web server, since it is very
> > >>> > > helpful to understand how to do this.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >   -- William
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:52:20 -0700, Timothy Clemans <
> > >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I'm surprised that it would suck to say to sage: copy cell(2) of
> > >>> > > > worksheet(graphics) to worksheet( Christian) or copy all of
> > >> "graphics"
> > >>> > > > to " Christian".
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Is there going to be a template system so that students in a class
> > >> all
> > >>> > > > start out with the same worksheet that the teacher created?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I really hope a good user system is implemented in the SAGE
> > >> notebook.
> > >>> > > > I would love to have a web service like
> > >>> > > > lyman.mat98.spring.07.sscc.sageclassroom.org with a
> > >>> > shortcut like
> > >>> > > > sageclass.org/98765 or
> > >>> > student.sageclassroom.org/Clemans/Timothy/A
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Once an Apache module or even better a standard tarball like
> > >> MediaWiki
> > >>> > > > is made for SAGE, a whole new world will open up.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Where do I go for a complete listing of all of the issues with the
> > >>> > > > SAGE notebook and IE?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >> IE7 will be supported in the future.
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >> Copying cells around would suck for what you're doing, no matter
> > >> how
> > >>> > easy we could make it.  There is also a forthcoming feature in which 
> > >>> > you
> > >>> > will be able to edit files, similar to the worksheet editing mode, and
> > >>> > attach them to your SAGE session.
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >> For now, save a "template" worksheet, and upload copies.  The 
> > >>> > > >> names
> > >>> > won't collide.
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Timothy Clemans wrote:
> > >>> > > >>
> > >>> > > >> >
> > >>> > > >> > Can my notebook suggestions be added to Trac? I sent them to
> > >>> > > >> > sage-support. The notebook is extremely important to me, 
> > >>> > > >> > because
> > >> I
> > >>> > > >> > just got a kid very interested in using SAGE and writing basic
> > >>> > > >> > functions. He didn't know much about the computer last night
> > >> until I
> > >>> > > >> > showed him how easy it is to write some functions that are very
> > >>> > useful
> > >>> > > >> > for him and his friends. He and I are going to write a bunch of
> > >>> > > >> > functions for Kthrough12 and possibly all of them. I think that
> > >> if it
> > >>> > > >> > becomes easy to copy cells into other worksheets or all those
> > >>> > > >> > functions get added to SAGE then I think you could see a big
> > >>> > following
> > >>> > > >> > of teens using SAGE. I do wish IE 6 was supported since thats
> > >> what
> > >>> > > >> > King Country library currently uses and some other important
> > >> places
> > >>> > > >> > that do not have Firefox available.
> > >>> > > >> >
> > >>> > > >> > On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> For now, it's about as good as it's going to get for now.  You
> > >> want
> > >>> > more cell?  Use slideshow mode.  Otherwise, don't make such big cells.
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> That being said, I make super huge cells all the time, and the
> > >>> > scrolling around pisses me off, too.  So something will be done about
> > >> it.
> > >>> > Either there will be a clean CSS workaround, or I'll make a keycode 
> > >>> > that
> > >>> > switches in and out of slideshow mode.
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> I've been working crazy hard on some other stuff, so the
> > >> notebook
> > >>> > has sadly taken the back burner for now.  A couple of things left for 
> > >>> > me
> > >> to
> > >>> > take care of, and I should be able to spend some quality time on the
> > >>> > notebook about the time that SD3 comes around.  If nothing else, I've
> > >> got
> > >>> > stupidly indirect flights with layovers, so I expect that to inspire 
> > >>> > me.
> > >>  ;)
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> NOTICE:  I really appreciate feedback on the notebook.  This
> > >>> > particular issue gets a crappy response right now, but please don't 
> > >>> > let
> > >> that
> > >>> > discourage you.
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > >>> > > >> >>     --tom
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> (Ifti -- put this issue into trac, if it isn't already -- and
> > >> don't
> > >>> > be afraid to do so in general.  Good to keep me reminded regularly.)
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Iftikhar Burhanuddin wrote:
> > >>> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > >> >>> Hi folks,
> > >>> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > >> >>> When I paste a huge string into a notebook cell, the height 
> > >>> > > >> >>> of
> > >> the
> > >>> > cell
> > >>> > > >> >>> doesn't increase appropriately and scrolling through the 
> > >>> > > >> >>> string
> > >>> > using
> > >>> > > >> >>> my cursor and maneuvering the tiny scroll bar are painful.
> > >>> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > >> >>> I was wondering if there is any way to increase the height of
> > >> cells
> > >>> > in the
> > >>> > > >> >>> SAGE notebook. If the answer is negative, it should be a 
> > >>> > > >> >>> todo.
> > >>> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > >> >>> Regards,
> > >>> > > >> >>> Ifti
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