BTW I don't mean that any of you would need to create the code for the server. I just mean that once I get one going with Twisted I will need a place to run it and I can not use the web host that I will use for SAGE Classroom for it.
On 2/6/07, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So will someone set up a server for me at say UW where I can send the > computation and the output and have some server status tools also? > > On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Knock yourself out, buddy. Sounds like a grand idea. > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Timothy Clemans wrote: > > > > > > > > My idea is to have an API system like Google does for search, maps, > > > ... where the webmaster has a lot of control and Google does the > > > backend work. So all I would need is a SAGE backend server that > > > someone would let me have access to for a project like Classroom SAGE. > > > > > > On 2/6/07, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Why not just write the notebook in Python or PHP using mod_PHP or > > >> > > >> Ask Tom Boothby! > > >> Wink-Wink!! :) > > >> > > >>> mod_python in Apache and just create a sage worker server? This way > > >>> could setup a notebook and use SSH to talk a the worker server. The > > >>> worker server would do all the SAGE computations. > > >>> > > >>> This way I could host my notebook using a standard web host that > > >>> supports PHP or Python , and mysql. The worker server would be hosted > > >>> by the University of Washington. > > >>> > > >>> On 2/6/07, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > On 2/6/07, William Stein < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Hi, > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Regarding all the notebook discussion, I think it is great to make > > >>> > > a list of entries about the notebook in trac server. But I do *not* > > >>> > > think we should we should implement any of them (unless they are > > >>> > > trivial), until the notebook is transitioned over to use the > > >>> > > twisted "web2" web server, since the implementations will probably > > >>> > > have to change. Transitioning to twisted is a much more pressing > > >> issue > > >>> > > with the notebook, and it probably won't happen until Tom, Alex, > > >>> > > me or somebody else gets some time to do it. > > >>> > > > >>> > I agree that it is probably not a good idea to add more features to > > >>> > the current SAGE notebook. > > >>> > > > >>> > Instead a well though out rewrite in Twisted is something I really > > >>> > want. > > >>> > Dealing with important issues like security/access is something I have > > >> spent > > >>> > a lot of my personal time working on. > > >>> > > > >>> > The Twisted web2 stuff in not completely mature, and to really getting > > >>> > going you must climb a *steep* learning curve if you are not already a > > >>> > networking guru. > > >>> > (read the Twisted-web mailing list, this is the general consensus). > > >>> > That said Twisted is very powerful, and I think it is worth the climb, > > >>> > which I myself am still working on :) > > >>> > > > >>> > Alex > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > By the way, whoever wants to work on the twisted transition should > > >>> > > definitely look at the MoinMoin twisted web server, since it is very > > >>> > > helpful to understand how to do this. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > -- William > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:52:20 -0700, Timothy Clemans < > > >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I'm surprised that it would suck to say to sage: copy cell(2) of > > >>> > > > worksheet(graphics) to worksheet( Christian) or copy all of > > >> "graphics" > > >>> > > > to " Christian". > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Is there going to be a template system so that students in a class > > >> all > > >>> > > > start out with the same worksheet that the teacher created? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I really hope a good user system is implemented in the SAGE > > >> notebook. > > >>> > > > I would love to have a web service like > > >>> > > > lyman.mat98.spring.07.sscc.sageclassroom.org with a > > >>> > shortcut like > > >>> > > > sageclass.org/98765 or > > >>> > student.sageclassroom.org/Clemans/Timothy/A > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Once an Apache module or even better a standard tarball like > > >> MediaWiki > > >>> > > > is made for SAGE, a whole new world will open up. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Where do I go for a complete listing of all of the issues with the > > >>> > > > SAGE notebook and IE? > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> IE7 will be supported in the future. > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> Copying cells around would suck for what you're doing, no matter > > >> how > > >>> > easy we could make it. There is also a forthcoming feature in which > > >>> > you > > >>> > will be able to edit files, similar to the worksheet editing mode, and > > >>> > attach them to your SAGE session. > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> For now, save a "template" worksheet, and upload copies. The > > >>> > > >> names > > >>> > won't collide. > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Timothy Clemans wrote: > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > Can my notebook suggestions be added to Trac? I sent them to > > >>> > > >> > sage-support. The notebook is extremely important to me, > > >>> > > >> > because > > >> I > > >>> > > >> > just got a kid very interested in using SAGE and writing basic > > >>> > > >> > functions. He didn't know much about the computer last night > > >> until I > > >>> > > >> > showed him how easy it is to write some functions that are very > > >>> > useful > > >>> > > >> > for him and his friends. He and I are going to write a bunch of > > >>> > > >> > functions for Kthrough12 and possibly all of them. I think that > > >> if it > > >>> > > >> > becomes easy to copy cells into other worksheets or all those > > >>> > > >> > functions get added to SAGE then I think you could see a big > > >>> > following > > >>> > > >> > of teens using SAGE. I do wish IE 6 was supported since thats > > >> what > > >>> > > >> > King Country library currently uses and some other important > > >> places > > >>> > > >> > that do not have Firefox available. > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> For now, it's about as good as it's going to get for now. You > > >> want > > >>> > more cell? Use slideshow mode. Otherwise, don't make such big cells. > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> That being said, I make super huge cells all the time, and the > > >>> > scrolling around pisses me off, too. So something will be done about > > >> it. > > >>> > Either there will be a clean CSS workaround, or I'll make a keycode > > >>> > that > > >>> > switches in and out of slideshow mode. > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> I've been working crazy hard on some other stuff, so the > > >> notebook > > >>> > has sadly taken the back burner for now. A couple of things left for > > >>> > me > > >> to > > >>> > take care of, and I should be able to spend some quality time on the > > >>> > notebook about the time that SD3 comes around. If nothing else, I've > > >> got > > >>> > stupidly indirect flights with layovers, so I expect that to inspire > > >>> > me. > > >> ;) > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> NOTICE: I really appreciate feedback on the notebook. This > > >>> > particular issue gets a crappy response right now, but please don't > > >>> > let > > >> that > > >>> > discourage you. > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >>> > > >> >> --tom > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> (Ifti -- put this issue into trac, if it isn't already -- and > > >> don't > > >>> > be afraid to do so in general. Good to keep me reminded regularly.) > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Iftikhar Burhanuddin wrote: > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> Hi folks, > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> When I paste a huge string into a notebook cell, the height > > >>> > > >> >>> of > > >> the > > >>> > cell > > >>> > > >> >>> doesn't increase appropriately and scrolling through the > > >>> > > >> >>> string > > >>> > using > > >>> > > >> >>> my cursor and maneuvering the tiny scroll bar are painful. > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> I was wondering if there is any way to increase the height of > > >> cells > > >>> > in the > > >>> > > >> >>> SAGE notebook. If the answer is negative, it should be a > > >>> > > >> >>> todo. > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >> >>> Ifti > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---