I agree. Let's get 3.0 out and table this until then. Deal?
Yehuda Katz Architect | Engine Yard (ph) 718.877.1325 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: > Why? SQLite3 was made the default database in 2.0.2 and the world > didn't stop. It's a change that affects people creating new Rails > applications - not ones that have already been created. > > I'm a big fan of jQuery too but maybe at this point it would be nice > to take an issue off the core team's table. At the end of the day > Rails 3 is still going to work great no matter what the default is. > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 17:59, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would not go changing this in a minor release. Major or bust. > > > > Ryan Bigg / Radar > > > > On 28/05/2010, at 1:58, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:45, Xavier Noria <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Yehuda Katz <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> The idea that 16% of Rails users use jQuery is divorced from reality. > >>> > >>> But you are talking perceptions, and the sample talks numbers. > >>> > >>> Of course 16% has to be taken with some margins, but you can't deny it > >>> makes difficult to claim that the vast majority of Rails developers > >>> use jQuery exclusively, which was the claim in (1). That is a strong > >>> claim! (1 was originally stated as a feeling not a fact, that's fine). > >>> > >>> If the percent had been 84% then there would be no doubt about it, > >>> right? But < 20%... dubious. > >> > >> This is why I stated that once Rails 3 comes out, it should be easier > >> to get some "real" numbers on this, since presumably it will be just > >> as easy for developers to use jQuery as it currently is to use > >> Prototype, and those users > >> who actively program in Javascript rather than just using the helpers > >> will consciously decide to use one or the other. > >> > >> I would suggest it's a bit late to change the default option at this > >> time, and if the decision is left for 3.1 it can easily be based at > >> least in part on real-world numbers that nobody disputes. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<rubyonrails-core%[email protected]> > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<rubyonrails-core%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-core%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
