I personally disagree. With a limit backwards compatibility, current
Prototype users could have a simple command line switch to regain
their old default. Furthermore, I feel that the default JS library is
the least coupled piece of Rails 3 -- changing it is rather
unobtrusive, as long as bindings are available for the major
frameworks.


Cheers,
Daniel

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would not go changing this in a minor release. Major or bust.
>
> Ryan Bigg / Radar
>
> On 28/05/2010, at 1:58, Norman Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:45, Xavier Noria <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Yehuda Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The idea that 16% of Rails users use jQuery is divorced from reality.
>>>
>>> But you are talking perceptions, and the sample talks numbers.
>>>
>>> Of course 16% has to be taken with some margins, but you can't deny it
>>> makes difficult to claim that the vast majority of Rails developers
>>> use jQuery exclusively, which was the claim in (1). That is a strong
>>> claim! (1 was originally stated as a feeling not a fact, that's fine).
>>>
>>> If the percent had been 84% then there would be no doubt about it,
>>> right? But < 20%... dubious.
>>
>> This is why I stated that once Rails 3 comes out, it should be easier
>> to get some "real" numbers on this, since presumably it will be just
>> as easy for developers to use jQuery as it currently is to use
>> Prototype, and those users
>> who actively program in Javascript rather than just using the helpers
>> will consciously decide to use one or the other.
>>
>> I would suggest it's a bit late to change the default option at this
>> time, and if the decision is left for 3.1 it can easily be based at
>> least in part on real-world numbers that nobody disputes.
>>
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