My understanding is that part of the reason people are often moving to restconf is that the protocol exchanges are somewhat simpler.  Note that the significant delay I have heard about is often in the processing system and consistency checks, and moving to restconf, or gRPC, or ... does not change that.

Yours,

Joel

On 3/19/2025 12:27 AM, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote:

Hi Joel

Many thanks for your comments; much appreciated.

The goal of the draft is to solicit this type of feedback. MANY THANKS!

The draft talks about applicability of the Yang over Netconf (I know you mentioned RESTCONF).

Specifically, the Netconf route is slow and unpredictable for real-time applications like tactical traffic engineering

I am not an expert in manageability, but I am afraid RESTCONF would have the same issue?

Looking forward to your/ WGs feedback on how to take this work forward.

Thanks

Regards … Zafar

*From: *Joel Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com>
*Date: *Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 2:10 PM
*To: *Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>, rtgwg@ietf.org <rtgwg@ietf.org>, spr...@ietf.org <spr...@ietf.org>
*Subject: *Re: [rtgwg] RPC for programming ephemeral routing states

One thing I missed in reading this draft is why this was better than existing tools, e.g. YANG over RESTCONF.  For which we know the integration with the rest of the operational environment.  (I can believe there is an advantage, but I couldn't tell what it was.)

Yours,

Joel

On 3/8/2025 1:04 PM, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote:

    Hi,

    Recently, the industry has witnessed increasing use cases where a
    controller needs to install ephemeral routing states in the
    network. Protocol use requires the controller to implement
    laborious encoding, decoding, serialization of data streams, etc.

    We have written a generic draft of routing RPC API for programming
    ephemeral routing states, using SR policy programming as an example.

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ali-spring-sr-policy-programming-rpc/
    
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ali-spring-sr-policy-programming-rpc/>.


    It aims to ease the programming of ephemeral routing states in the
    network using an SDN controller.

    We request a review and discussion on how to forward the work to
    the IETF. We will present it at the upcoming RTGWG meeting.

    Thanks

    Regards ... Zafar (on behalf of co-authors)



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