Great! Thanks Zhe.
This area of research is rich with many papers ....

Looking forward to the 2nd sidemeeting.

Hesham

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024, 3:12 AM Zhe Lou <zhe....@huawei.com> wrote:

> Dear Hesham,
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this paper with us. It looks interesting! We are going
> to organize another Inter-DC AI side meeting in Dublin. I will check with
> the authors for their availabilities.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> David
>
>
>
> *From:* Hesham ElBakoury <helbako...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2024 6:40 PM
> *To:* Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *Cc:* rtgwg <rtgwg@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Sidemeeting on "Inter-DC AI: Requirements and Challenges"
> on July 25th 5pm to 6.16pm
>
>
>
> This paper [1] is published in ICDCS 2024. Its title "AdapCC: Making
> Collective Communication in Distributed Machine Learning Adaptive". It is
> relevant to the discussion of this sidemeeting. You may think of inviting
> the authors to present this paper in future Inter-DC AI sidemeeting.
>
>
>
> Hesham
>
> [1] https://i.cs.hku.hk/~cwu/papers/xyzhao-icdcs24.pdf
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 2:55 AM Dirk Trossen <dirk.trossen=
> 40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> We are organizing a side meeting on “Inter-DC AI: Requirements and
> Challenges” on Thursday 25th from 5pm to 6.15pm in Prince of Wales/Oxford.
>
>
>
> The backdrop for this side meeting is the significant growth in demands
> for computing and networking resources for (Large data) AI, where
> boundaries for future growth are being set through power consumption
> (including location of the DC), space and cooling tech as well as
> complexity and cost. This has led to the emerging view that inter-DC AI
> computation is the way forward to overcome those local DC challenges.
>
>
>
> This side meeting at IETF120 will start the needed dialogue to identify
> and discuss key challenges on (1) congestion control to improve goodput
> across DCs, (2) efficient support for cross-DC collective communication
> primitives, (3) obtaining suitable knowledge of network topologies across
> underlays to segregate training tasks across DCs, (4) utilizing new
> congestion control mechanisms to optimize large-scale inferencing traffic
> from millions of clients to few Points of Presence (PoPs), as well as (5)
> providing suitable means to attest for secure and private transfer of
> needed training input data from customers to AI training providers.
>
>
>
> The side meeting will feature presentations to tease out key insights from
> various players in this field, leaving dedicated time for discussing
> possible next and concrete steps in the IETF to move forward, with the
> following agenda
>
>
>
> Room: Prince of Wales/Oxford Agenda: 17.00 - 17.05: Settling &
> Introduction (Luigi Iannone, Huawei)
>
>
>
> 17.05 - 17.15: Inter-DC AI: Requirements & Opportunities (Dirk Trossen,
> Huawei)
>
>
>
> 17.15 - 17.25: On Congestion Control (Michael Welzl)
>
>
>
> 17.25 - 17.35: On Attestation (Ramki Krishan, Intel)
>
>
>
> 17.35 - 17.45: On Collective Communication (Kehan Yao, China Mobile)
>
>
>
> 17.45 - 18.15: Discussion on Next Steps (Dirk Trossen, Huawei)
>
>
>
> Meeting link: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2
>
> Github link (with presentation slides coming next week):
> https://github.com/dirk-trossen-huawei/ietf120_inter-dc_ai
>
>
>
> We hope to see you on 25th for a fruitful and engaging discussion!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dirk Trossen, Luigi Iannone, David Lou
>
>
>
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