On 10. May 2024, at 22:13, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I apologize for being a day late (but of course time does not actually advance 
during weekends…).

We have had a longstanding, small but tricky problem with the IANA registration 
policies defined in BCP 26: this has policies that involve designated experts 
and policies that require some IETF consensus (IETF review, Standards Action), 
but no policies that actually combine these requirements.

One might think that IETF consensus should be higher-ranking than expert 
review, but for some registries there is registry-specific knowledge that may 
be required for making a correct registration and that may be concentrated in 
the designated experts.  IETF consensus based registration sometimes 
circumvents that knowledge, which can lead to incorrect registrations or to 
emergency actions to avoid such incorrect registrations (which in turn can lead 
to port-465-style problems [2]).

The draft at [0] aims to create pre-made policies that solve this problem by 
combining IETF consensus with expert review.

This has been discussed for almost a decade, probably more during meetings than 
on mailing lists.  
Finally writing this up was triggered by the specific instance of [1].

We would like to discuss this issue (and how well the current draft succeeds at 
addressing the issue) on the gendispatch ML, adjust the draft, and then have it 
on the agenda of the gendispatch meeting in Vancouver.

Grüße, Carsten


[0]: 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bormann-gendispatch-with-expert-review-00.html

[1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/core/BENVbgmF0px40GPW-zlA4nHI8So

[2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8314
(The 465 problem was created by a set of circumstances distinct from the 
problem we hope to solve by “…with expert review”, but it is a rather 
impressive example for how long unstable registrations can linger if not 
addressed heads-on early.

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