Our discussion is not for any existing network. It is for NTN integration for 5G and beyond. NTN integration is a big and on-going work in 3gpp. It has raised challenges to many technologies, from cell phone to satellite, from radio to core network, from antenna to laser, etc. Networking is just one area that must be studied. Tomorrow we will have more detailed presentation for this.
Regards Lin Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Marie-Jose Montpetit <ma...@mjmontpetit.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:28:04 PM To: 116attend...@ietf.org <116attend...@ietf.org>; Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net>; eto...@ietf.org <eto...@ietf.org>; t...@ietf.org <t...@ietf.org>; Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com>; rtgwg@ietf.org <rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow But it’s still not there :) But yes ISL give a ton of interesting routing opportunities (with constraints like minimizing energy). mjm Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. ma...@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:ma...@mjmontpetit.com> From: Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com><mailto:lin....@futurewei.com> Reply: Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com><mailto:lin....@futurewei.com> Date: March 27, 2023 at 10:24:57 AM To: Marie-Jose Montpetit <ma...@mjmontpetit.com><mailto:ma...@mjmontpetit.com>, 116attend...@ietf.org<mailto:116attend...@ietf.org> <116attend...@ietf.org><mailto:116attend...@ietf.org>, Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net><mailto:lber...@labn.net>, eto...@ietf.org<mailto:eto...@ietf.org> <eto...@ietf.org><mailto:eto...@ietf.org>, t...@ietf.org<mailto:t...@ietf.org> <t...@ietf.org><mailto:t...@ietf.org>, rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> <rtgwg@ietf.org><mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow See this https://paxex.aero/starlink-inter-satellite-links/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpaxex.aero%2Fstarlink-inter-satellite-links%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clin.han%40futurewei.com%7Cbeafc9f4fd534617842308db2ecf7b07%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638155240909167500%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oPApxW1VcAeI%2BAWt3m%2FHxZcyR%2FvEhresbWWo7%2Bghb6c%3D&reserved=0> BRs Lin ________________________________ From: Marie-Jose Montpetit <ma...@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:ma...@mjmontpetit.com>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023, 11:05 PM To: 116attend...@ietf.org<mailto:116attend...@ietf.org> <116attend...@ietf.org<mailto:116attend...@ietf.org>>; Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net<mailto:lber...@labn.net>>; eto...@ietf.org<mailto:eto...@ietf.org> <eto...@ietf.org<mailto:eto...@ietf.org>>; t...@ietf.org<mailto:t...@ietf.org> <t...@ietf.org<mailto:t...@ietf.org>>; Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com<mailto:lin....@futurewei.com>>; rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> <rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow LEO satellite constellations with ISL? Which one? Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. ma...@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:ma...@mjmontpetit.com> From: Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com><mailto:lin....@futurewei.com> Reply: Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com><mailto:lin....@futurewei.com> Date: March 27, 2023 at 9:48:18 AM To: Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net><mailto:lber...@labn.net>, 116attend...@ietf.org<mailto:116attend...@ietf.org> <116attend...@ietf.org><mailto:116attend...@ietf.org>, eto...@ietf.org<mailto:eto...@ietf.org> <eto...@ietf.org><mailto:eto...@ietf.org>, t...@ietf.org<mailto:t...@ietf.org> <t...@ietf.org><mailto:t...@ietf.org>, rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> <rtgwg@ietf.org><mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [116attendees] Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow Hi, Lou Basically, this side meeting is to discuss the networking issues and explore solutions when using satellite for NTN integration. For example, large scale LEO satellite constellation forms a network by using ISL, and this network should provide the support of internet access or mobile back haul. This is expected from 3GPP perspective in its NTN integration for 5G and beyond. It is obvious that satellite network has "time variant" behavior, but we will not do any information/data model work charted in TVR. We will only focus other topics, such as: 1. Problem statement and 3GPP's use case 2. Addressing, Routing and switching 3. Mobility, Handover, Multi-path 4. Integration with internet and routes exchanging If you have more question, you are welcome to join the conference to discuss. Thanks Lin -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net<mailto:lber...@labn.net>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:46 AM To: Lin Han <lin....@futurewei.com<mailto:lin....@futurewei.com>>; 116attend...@ietf.org<mailto:116attend...@ietf.org>; eto...@ietf.org<mailto:eto...@ietf.org>; t...@ietf.org<mailto:t...@ietf.org>; rtgwg@ietf.org<mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: Side meeting for Satellite networking tomorrow Hi, Can you explain the relationship between this side meeting and TVR? Is it just a TVR use case? 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