Hi Jeff,

Per 8407bis, it is recommended that this note is used when an IANA-maintained 
module is associated with a registry:

==
   IANA is requested to add this note to the registry:

       New values must not be directly added to the "iana-foo" YANG
       module.  They must instead be added to the "foo" registry.
==

The key point is that once we initialized such a module, registration actions 
will be automatically mirrored in the module. Registrants do not even need to 
know that such module exist.

So, I'm supportive of Ketan's comment below.

Cheers,
Med

De : Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]>
Envoyé : mercredi 4 juin 2025 15:53
À : Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
Cc : [email protected]; 
[email protected]; 
[email protected]; rtg-bfd@ietf. org <[email protected]>; 
ops-ads <[email protected]>
Objet : Re: AD review follow-up for YANG organization related aspects for the 3 
BFD documents



Ketan,



On Jun 4, 2025, at 3:12 AM, Ketan Talaulikar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I got myself educated (a little bit) on the YANG modeling guidelines as part of 
the IESG review of 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis/

:-)



Following are some YANG organization specific comments on each of the 3 
documents.

1) For draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers

a) 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-24.html#section-6.1
 has to be moved from that document into the IANA considerations of this 
document. This IANA registry feeds into an IANA maintained YANG module that 
needs to be self-contained in this document where those two types are actually 
specified.

That's "fine".  In prior iterations of the secure sequence number docs, the 
references to how ISAAC required the optimized procedures was less clear and 
thus ownership of the things supporting optimized made sense in the parent 
document rather than the child documents.


2) For draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication

a) The following sections need to be deleted (i.e., they have no place in any 
of these documents) because they refer to an IANA maintained YANG module

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-24.html#section-6.4
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-24.html#name-updated-bfd-iana-module

b) For the YANG Model in 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-24.html#section-5.3
 there are two options:
i) It can be split so the main part related to optimized auth remains in this 
document and the part specific to the two ISAAC auth types is moved into 
draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers. IMHO this would be the correct and 
modular way to develop YANG modules.

Sorry, go check with your ops ADs again.  Have we developed a procedure by 
which more than one document pre-publication can update the same IANA module?  
If so, please supply a reference to the current draft/RFC that details how to 
do so.

OR
ii) It can be moved entirely into draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers to 
avoid the circular normative reference between these two drafts. This will also 
better align with (1) (a). I believe this is what Reshad was suggesting.

That would be acceptable, but largely because 1 works out well enough today.


3) For draft-ietf-bfd-stability - all seems good to me from YANG perspective

Please let me know your thoughts and if you agree, it would be great to get 
some draft updates posted so we can start closing off review comments.

Patches addressing the YANG points will be trivial to do.

You have a large backlog of items covering the optimized procedures already 
pending to comment on.  Since the remaining authors for the optimized draft are 
their usual silent selves, I'm tempted to just push the queued items in the 
github branch for broader IETF review.

-- Jeff

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