Yi Wen wrote:

yeah, you guys are probably right on this. I was just over stating. :)

Ah, but Waterfall is indeed like the Emissaries of the Shadow. If you defeat one of them, in one form, another one will always appear, take shape, and grow...

I myself have heard well-meaning product managers say "When we go for the rewrite, we are going to make sure we specify each feature, first, before coding them!" They said that because the last effort - code-and-fix - had grown until it died under the weight of its cruft. They perceived their inability to safely request new features as evidence that they did not specify enough, up-front.

These managers knew better than to use classic Waterfall, but they still didn't understand that Big Requirements Up Front is essentially Waterfall's worst aspect. And so they re-invented Waterfall, yet again, in yet another form.

So keep flying that flag of vigilance, there!

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  Phlip

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