Sorry, accidentally sent that to RG list.

But QT5 apps for Android are possible?

I agree with the things about latency and such, but I'm just interested 
in basic composition and playing with sounds. The real work still 
happens on RG on PC.

On 12/18/2014 01:26 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> Not sure what that was about, but I'll take a guess and assume you were
> thinking about asking if Rosegarden will ever be ported to Android.
>
> I haven't gotten around to trying to develop a Qt 5 app for Android yet.
>    It's "supposed" to be possible.
>
> Question 1: Is it possible, or is it a hideous hack that's way too
> complicated for end users?
>
> I might answer that one eventually, as I've been intending to write
> myself a little convenience app to do some calculations for me on the
> job.  If I make enough progress to get sucked into the challenge, I'll
> probably get enough momentum to create that one of these days.  If I get
> stumped much at all, I will probably just end up making a spreadsheet.
> It's one of those things where the app is just there to make it prettier
> and more convenient, and it isn't worth a lot of pain.
>
> IF that actually works, then I MIGHT get bored enough to try compiling
> Rosegarden.  We've already done most of the work of porting it to Qt 5,
> so it's TECHNICALLY possible.  MAYBE.
>
>   From there, who knows.
>
> Question 2: Is it possible to interface with the audio in any
> interesting way?
>
> I'm going to guess the answer is hell no.  I have some experience on a
> different platform, and the needs of a device that can function as a
> telephone are totally different from the average desktop computer.
> These needs are impressively difficult to reconcile with good latency
> numbers, and the result is latencies on the order of 333 ms.
>
> Ever try interacting with an audio app that has 333 ms latency?  I have.
>    Don't waste your time.
>
> It's a whole lot of what ifs and maybes for a guy who pulls the hours I
> do, and on night shift to boot.  The chances of me getting beyond wild
> speculation and actually touching the first bit of useful work are
> extremely low.
>
> On 12/17/2014 11:33 PM, david wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 01:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:12:51 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, david <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording
>>>>> apps for Android?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bwahahahahah! Android is basically a non-starter for this app niche
>>>> at this point in time. The exceptions prove the rule.
>>>
>>> OTOH Jack is dropped for the iPad :(.
>>>
>>> "JACK does currently not work on iOS7!" -
>>> http://www.crudebyte.com/jack-ios/
>>>
>>> My iPad currently is on iOS 8.1.2 and there wasn't a jackd update ;).
>>
>> Well, I don't think I need JACK for my mobile uses. More just noting
>> down compositions, playing with sounds.
>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 01:39 PM, Diego Simak wrote:>
>>>> 2014-12-17 16:58 GMT-02:00 david:
>>>>
>>>>       Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording
>>>>       apps for Android?
>>>>
>>>> AUDIOID
>>>> really nice TB303, 808 and 909 emulation, lots of fun
>>>>
>>>> KOSM
>>>> audio composition app based on gravity and mass, once you get it is very
>>>> addictive
>>>>
>>>> MikroWave
>>>> from the same developer of Kosm, haven't tested it..
>>
>> Thanks, Diego, I'll check them out.
>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 01:36 PM, Erik Steffl wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2014 01:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
>>>>> On 12/17/2014 07:58 PM, david wrote:
>>>>>> Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording apps
>>>>>> for Android?
>>>>>
>>>>> For recording I use TapeMachine but I'm about to buy Audio Evolution
>>>>> Mobile DAW so I can use my USB audio interface with my phone or tablet.
>>>>> Haven't used Android for other things than recording, basically because
>>>>> the apps are lacking. So I partly agree with Paul.
>>>>
>>>>      Audio Evolution is probably best for recording, I played around with
>>>> it a bit, with USB input device (and special host USB cable which makes
>>>> it possible for tablet to behave as USB host) you get pretty low latency
>>>> (didn't measure it),
>>>>
>>>>      plus the developer was very responsive,
>>>>
>>>>        erik
>>
>> Erik - I wasn't necessarily thinking of recording using the tablet, but
>> both TapeMachine and Audio Evolution sound interesting. What kind of USB
>> cable did you have to get to have the tablet function as a USB host?
>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 01:17 PM, Neil wrote:
>>>> I've played with Caustic a little, and I used to have a fun theremin app
>>>> on my phone that used the NFC proximity sensor.  I've looked at some
>>>> other Android software, but Caustic was the most capable title I came
>>>> across.  Capable as it is, I didn't like it enough to stick with it.  I
>>>> do all my music work on Linux PC.
>>
>> I do mine on Linux PC, too, just wanted something mobile. The Tegra Note
>> has decent speakers and great headphone output, so I like it.
>>
>> I like Caustic. It seems to be well-designed for phones and tablets.
>> Didn't know there was a desktop version! According to this site, Caustic
>> for Windows works under WINE:
>>
>> http://jeffhendricks.net/?p=291
>>
>> I'll have to try that out.
>>
>> For price comparison, a friend is a devotee of FL Studio (from its
>> honest days when they called it "Fruity Loops"). FL Studio Mobile is
>> $19.99. The Reactable Mobile app is $8.91, but Caustic seems to be a lot
>> more versatile. So $8 for Caustic doesn't bother me.
>>
>> So far, Ensemble Composer seems to be a decent basic composition tool.
>> MuseScore for Android seems to only be able to display and play sheet
>> music, not a composition tool. Apparently composing with it requires
>> using the PC version.
>>
>> Thanks for the apps mentioned, it sounds like there's a better selection
>> of good audio apps on Android than good calendar apps ...


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