Stephen, The NIST LaB6 can be used for Scherrer approximation and works fine. For materials that have different peak locations I plot out all the FWHM of LaB6 and curve fit the function to get a better value of teh FHWM at the position of the sample I am applying the correction on. However, for more precise work (especially when using the Warren-Averbach approach) I use the same material in the annealed state. I have found the NIST sample is one of the smallest B (FWHM) values and various materials such as metals (which I work with often) have a higher intrinsic defect count and hence a higher FWHM in the annealed than say ceramics such as LaB6, often I am interested in what defects are added due to some process.
Sorry about the error in my first response, I also I wanted to mention when I discussed correction I was referring to the instrumental broadening correction which you have obviously figured out. Hope that helps, Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Edward Laitila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:26:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Suggestion about software(s) for size profile-broadening calculation Dear Edward, many thanks for your info. For the instrumental value (B), is it necessary to use some standard? I got some NIST LaB6. Is it ok? I wish this matter will not bother you lot of your spare time. Best wishes. stephen ----- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:54:23 -0500 (EST) From: Edward Laitila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Edward Laitila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Suggestion about software(s) for size profile-broadening calculation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Stephen, > > The peak profile gives information about the crystallite or coherent > diffracting domain size along with microstrain. You cannot not get > a grain size unless the crystallite size can be related to the > grain size from knowledge of the microstructure. The crystallite > size can be estimated using the Scherrer equation assuming no > microstrains and a spherical shape. The equation is the thickness > or size = (0.9 X lambda)/(breadth(radians) X sin(theata)), that is > if I remember correctly since I am currently in the hospital. I > hope this helps, a rather simple calculation that provides a good > estimate. I should note there are correction schemes of gaussian > and lorentzian (I normally use a geometric mean of the two) that is > important when the breadth is only a couple of hundreds or less > (please see B.D. Cullity Elements of X-Ray Diffraction in my > opinion one of the best XRD references). Also the values change > with angle so I typically have found averaging the values of the 5 > lowest angle peaks is close to the Warren-Averbach results. > > > Cheers, > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "Rietveld L" <Rietveld_L@ill.fr> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:42:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Suggestion about software(s) for size profile-broadening calculation > > Dear all experts in XRD, > > As stated in the header, does anyone know if there is some software(s) > available for estimation of average crystal grain size using the peak > breath of XRD data? I just want to know some rough values so as to > compare my samples prepared at different conditions. Many thanks for > your kind helps. > Great appreciate. > > stephen > > > -- > Engineer/Scientist > Michigan Technological University > Dept of Materials Science and Engineering > Phone:(906) 369-2041 > Fax: (906) 487-2934 > ----- End message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- -- Engineer/Scientist Michigan Technological University Dept of Materials Science and Engineering Phone:(906) 369-2041 Fax: (906) 487-2934