Stephen,

The NIST LaB6 can be used for Scherrer approximation and works fine. For 
materials that have different peak locations I plot out all the FWHM of LaB6 
and curve fit the function to get a better value of teh FHWM at the position of 
the sample I am applying the correction on. However, for more precise work 
(especially when using the Warren-Averbach approach) I use the same material in 
the annealed state. I have found the NIST sample is one of the smallest B 
(FWHM) values and various materials such as metals (which I work with often) 
have a higher intrinsic defect count and hence a higher FWHM in the annealed 
than say ceramics such as LaB6, often I am interested in what defects are added 
due to some process.

Sorry about the error in my first response, I also I wanted to mention when I 
discussed correction I was referring to the instrumental broadening correction 
which you have obviously figured out.  

Hope that helps,
Ed


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Subject: Re: Suggestion about software(s) for size profile-broadening 
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Dear Edward,

many thanks for your info. For the instrumental value (B), is it  
necessary to use some standard? I got some NIST LaB6. Is it ok?

I wish this matter will not bother you lot of your spare time. Best wishes.

stephen


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> Stephen,
>
> The peak profile gives information about the crystallite or coherent  
>  diffracting domain size along with microstrain. You cannot not get  
> a  grain size unless the crystallite size can be related to the  
> grain  size from knowledge of the microstructure. The crystallite  
> size can  be estimated using the Scherrer equation assuming no  
> microstrains  and a spherical shape. The equation is the thickness  
> or size = (0.9  X lambda)/(breadth(radians) X sin(theata)), that is  
> if I remember  correctly since I am currently in the hospital. I  
> hope this helps, a  rather simple calculation that provides a good  
> estimate. I should  note there are correction schemes of gaussian  
> and lorentzian (I  normally use a geometric mean of the two) that is  
> important when the  breadth is only a couple of hundreds or less  
> (please see B.D.  Cullity Elements of X-Ray Diffraction in my  
> opinion one of the best  XRD references). Also the values change  
> with angle so I typically  have found averaging the values of the 5  
> lowest angle peaks is close  to the Warren-Averbach results.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ed
>
>
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> To: "Rietveld L" <Rietveld_L@ill.fr>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:42:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Suggestion about software(s) for size profile-broadening calculation
>
> Dear all experts in XRD,
>
> As stated in the header, does anyone know if there is some software(s)
> available for estimation of average crystal grain size using the peak
> breath of XRD data? I just want to know some rough values so as to
> compare my samples prepared at different conditions. Many thanks for
> your kind helps.
> Great appreciate.
>
> stephen
>
>
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> Michigan Technological University
> Dept of Materials Science and Engineering
> Phone:(906) 369-2041
> Fax: (906) 487-2934
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