On Feb 22, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Wright wrote:

From http://www.iucr.org/iucr-top/cif/faq/

# What is DDL3?

DDL version 3 is the name given to some work in progress by Syd Hall and his colleagues at the University of Western Australia. It is intended to build on the greater consistency and data typing abilities of DDL2 without tying the data model too closely to that of a relational database. A particular goal of DDL3 is to introduce methods into data dictionaries through a formal language known as dREL (Dictionary Regular Expression Language).

I've not seen a DDL3 example, but many cases can probably be covered with what is in pdCIF already.

The application which does the plotting doesn't need to end up inside the cif as part of the file, but the equation linking detector pixels to Q could be very useful. There has been a good deal of effort already in ImageCIF for single crystal experimental data.

I understood Maud can read and plot cifs already, and is written in Java? Could there be a browser plugin version for this?


Correct, it read data (datafiles and structures) in CIF format. It use the CIF sintax also for saving its own analysis files (with the addition of some extra non cif definitions missing in the formal cif but needed by the program and extra file substructures embedded as comments).

In the past there was a browser/java applet version of Maud as well as a subsequent java webstart version, both are still in there and with the successive modifications I tried to keep the program compliant with them, with the idea to be able to activate them if needed. Only I have not used both of them recently so the first programmer rule states that what has not been tested does not work for sure. But with a little work a java applet can be put again to work especially with the specific purpose of plotting CIF datafiles.

Well, in case someone is interested on it, he can just contact me with the idea/project and I may try to find out some spare time to do it. But I would prefer to have in case some specifications, files and what we need to just finalize and optimize it in the shortest time as possible.

Best regards,

        Luca Lutterotti

Best,

Jon


On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Alan Hewat wrote:

Now this sounds interesting. Certainly the raw data should be archived
and people could then plot it as they wish. But are there examples of interactive plotting applications embedded in powderCIF files, and what language might they use ? I would like to see a profile plotting package in Java or some other really portable language that would read in CIF files and plot calculated-observed patterns like Jmol now plots structures.
Alan.

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