Would it then be accurate to rephrase your statement by saying that data 
durability is guaranteed (specifically when dw>=1), but that reporting this 
durability is not? 

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On Friday, January 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Sean Cribbs wrote:

> Be aware that the client quorums are only a restriction on what the client 
> will wait for. It is entirely possible for a write to succeed in the larger 
> case, but not meet the W/DW quorum requirements. That is, the request may 
> "fail" but the write may still occur.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dmitry Demeshchuk <demeshc...@gmail.com 
> (mailto:demeshc...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > Generally, using eventually consistent databases for e-commerce sounds
> > too risky.
> > 
> > But I know that there was some e-commerce stealth startup using Riak
> > for their needs (probably not for all the data though, I don't know
> > any details). Amazon uses Dynamo, which is quite similar to Riak. So
> > NoSQL can be used in this niche somehow.
> > 
> > Also, intuitively, most of the consistency problems might be avoided
> > by setting all w/dw values to maximum (better set r to maximum too, of
> > course).
> > 
> > The hardest task I see here is to organize transactions for the cases
> > like "we remove a product from database and we should alter all the
> > orders that contain this product".
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Ahmed Al-Saadi <thaterlang...@gmail.com 
> > (mailto:thaterlang...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > After reviewing a few options in the NoSQL space, I am considering using
> > > Riak for an e-commerce platform. I gather that atomicity (transactions) is
> > > not supported while durability can be enforced per request (using dw=1 or,
> > > at least, w=<suitable value>?). In other words, for most non-critical
> > > reads/writes, r/w can be optimized for availability while critical writes
> > > must be committed to disk (or to "enough" nodes?), sacrificing 
> > > availability
> > > in the process.
> > >
> > > Does this describe the state-of-affairs or am I missing something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ahmed Al-Saadi
> > > Sent with Sparrow
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Dmitry Demeshchuk
> > 
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> 
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> Sean Cribbs <s...@basho.com (mailto:s...@basho.com)>
> Software Engineer
> Basho Technologies, Inc.
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