James, Scott, et al,

The motivation for this proposal was to have a registry of available data
elements for everyone who is managing an Internet based registration system
to draw upon.  An informational RFC would be a way to communicate the idea
of having such a registry but would not actually cause one to come into
existence.

At present, each registration system defines its own terms.  There is a
huge amount of overlap in terminology and meaning.  The point of having a
registry of terms is to eliminate or reduce duplication.  The existence of
a registry of available data elements does *not* mean that every registry
has to use all of the data elements.

Thanks,

Steve


On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gould, James <jgould=
40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I agree with Scott's feedback on the track being changed to Informational
> and removal of the IANA Registry.
>
> Why doesn't this draft match the approach taken io RFC 8499 for DNS
> Terminology?  The Registration System terms can certainly have overlap with
> the DNS terms in RFC 8499, where the RFC 8499 reference can be made, but
> the definition is catered to registration systems.  I see value with the
> terms in RFC 8499 for reference within drafts.  I would like to see the
> same value of terms defined in draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary.  The term
> definitions need to have adequate detail with relevant references made to
> the registration RFCs (e.g., RFC 5730 - 5733. 9022), which is not currently
> the case.  My recommendation is to refer to this as Registration
> Terminology instead of Registration Data Dictionary, following the approach
> taken in RFC 8499 for DNS terminology, and removing the definition of an
> IANA registry.
>
> Thanks,
>
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>
> JG
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> On 2/14/23, 8:14 AM, "regext on behalf of Hollenbeck, Scott" <
> regext-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of
> shollenbeck=40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:
> 40verisign....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm aware of two other RFCs that also define terms like this: 4949
> (security)
> and 8499 (DNS). The intended status for this draft is "Standards Track".
> At
> best, this should be Informational in the same way that 4949 is
> informational.
>
>
> Neither of these RFCs creates a registry. As such, I don't see the need
> for
> the registry described in Section 3. If a registry is really needed, it
> would
> be helpful to include text that describes why the registry is needed. If a
> case can be made for the registry I'm also confused by the initial
> assignment
> described in Section 3.2. It includes a data element "Name", with a
> reference
> to Section 2.1 of the draft, but there is no data element "Name" in
> Section
> 2.1.
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