Andy,

Sorry for the late response to your message.  The updates in -17 were made to 
address the feedback from John Klensin during the IETF Last Call, which 
included changing the cardinality to the One or Two (ASCII or SMTPUTF8) Option 
defined in the IETF-115 presented deck 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/materials/slides-115-regext-draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-cardinality-00).
  One of the elements of the One or Two (ASCII or SMTPUTF8) Option was to 
"Provide guidance in draft for the transition period", which is covered in 
Section 8 "SMTPUTF8 Transition Considerations" 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai#section-8 ) 
with normative language.  Below are the options to consider for the working 
group:

1. Keep Normative Language - Keep the Section 8 "SMTPUTF8 Transition 
Considerations" 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai#section-8 ) 
normative language
2. Change to Non-Normative Language - Change Section 8 "SMTPUTF8 Transition 
Considerations" 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai#section-8 ) to 
be non-normative, similar to Section 6 "Transition Considerations" of RFC 9154 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9154#section-6).
3. Use Hybrid Language - Use a hybrid of normative and non-normative language 
in Section 8 "SMTPUTF8 Transition Considerations" 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai#section-8 ).  
The normative elements would be based on working group feedback.

In reviewing a similar case of Section 6 "Transition Considerations" of RFC 
9154 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9154#section-6), I would choose 
option 2 "Change to Non-Normative Language ".

I would like to hear from others in the working group, including John Klensin.  

Thanks,

-- 

JG 



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On 1/13/23, 3:46 PM, "regext on behalf of Andrew Newton" 
<regext-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of 
a...@hxr.us <mailto:a...@hxr.us>> wrote:



Hi all,


I was looking at the diffs between -16 and -17 of the EAI drafts, and
the draft looks to have doubled in size since being submitted to the
IESG. A lot of the new content are examples (always a good thing), but
there has been some other normative language added. Does that need to
be discussed in the WG?


For example, one of the new sections is the transition section (8). On
the whole, I think it is very good advice. But I fear it is too
proscriptive for all cases.


-andy


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