Hi all,

given that the EPP Schemas already support EAI emails and many EPP servers usually accept them, could we simply correct section 2.6 of RFC5733  in order to let EPP servers accept either ASCII-only or EAI emails depending on their own policies described in out-of-band documents?

Best,

Mario

Il 12/10/2020 22:39, Dmitry Belyavsky ha scritto:
Dear James,

We have some options that sound reasonable (for me)

1. Treat RFC 6530 as an update to RFC 5322 (not the best idea, really).
2. Indicate accepting EAI via new contact namespace, accept in the <contact:email> tag 3. Indicate accepting EAI via eppEAI namespace, accept in the <contact:email> tag 4. Indicate accepting EAI via eppEAI namespace, accept in the <someext:email> tag

There is also an option "Do nothing, silently accept EAI in the <contact:email>" which is
implemented in Newstar and TANGO registration systems.

I think we need some consensus to prefer any of these options and I don't see any options to find out such a consensus than submit a draft and get some feedback.
Personally, I would prefer either option 2 or option 4.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:20 PM Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>> wrote:

    Dimtry,

    I don’t believe there is the need for a new contact XML namespace,
    but it would be associated with the new XML namespace
    (urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:epp:eppEAI-1.0) defined in
    draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai.

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    *From: *Dmitry Belyavsky <beld...@gmail.com
    <mailto:beld...@gmail.com>>
    *Date: *Monday, October 12, 2020 at 3:59 PM
    *To: *James Gould <jgo...@verisign.com <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>>
    *Cc: *"jo...@taugh.com <mailto:jo...@taugh.com>" <jo...@taugh.com
    <mailto:jo...@taugh.com>>, "Hollenbeck, Scott"
    <shollenb...@verisign.com <mailto:shollenb...@verisign.com>>,
    "regext@ietf.org <mailto:regext@ietf.org>" <regext@ietf.org
    <mailto:regext@ietf.org>>
    *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version
    Notification for draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-01.txt

    Dear James,

    If we indicate in the EPP greeting/Login support
    of urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:contact-1.0

    for old contact scheme without EAI
    and urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:contact-1.1

    for a new scheme with EAI, will it be enough?

    On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:53 PM Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com
    <mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>> wrote:

        Dmitry,

        The mechanism that we’ve used in the past is signaling support
        in the EPP greeting and login services. Support for an EPP
        extension is signaled per RFC in the EPP greeting and login
        services. We signal support for an operation practice via
        defining an XML namespace that is included in the EPP greeting
        and login services.  See
        
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-regext-secure-authinfo-transfer-03#section-3
        
<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1kbbME8WxKH25Af398m-OdqUFjso557LWijQiFXQJ0UKuX4cZCZzvDbYaHCY2_clcdljSgNx33sKFt3KGtedibBS3rd7Wn-tjukLzyRje6FwtvocFZuU1taYezRymzvBZLrldkbICauhkSsHRwazoFoHJepPRC6Q29CN67WEfGRnRBhURM55BobSdxDlos3bzBjeAVgNZ2oo3W_D3k7qndME5v-P8RlGiMBYYOnHXTBW6lDhznLqy1qBTvRiOl1ikEZMFhPPlvc7CdrjXu9iJcjMbQnUP7KNOmkd3ipkG-p0/https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-secure-authinfo-transfer-03%23section-3>
        for signaling support for
        draft-ietf-regext-secure-authinfo-transfer, and see
        
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-regext-unhandled-namespaces-03#section-4
        
<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1fDC9N8uU6IPT_EF_7uAAVznUD8SeRiQfEspxbZ7K462x3pUcWXANQLl65DhwDm42Tnzst5sWdgJoVVwVaV1nwfEeLIyJ84n7hf0no3KNDmr2FSnfWqoUXwz7CcJKtVHxVeqCPxPrSAtXLVXqMNxyXq43d3XwpQocebl_3CR6r5qfOs6MYXycUvkWQIrUmoVDWKVBZrlAb2X9LGj-xHMMzptz9EHkzj73LblhoBU1TlzhwfEE7NZvB629ZmMF3aDzE-uj8tBvwsCTWyPC2vNVAorS3uKjIAJx0Y5lZgMXKV4/https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-ietf-regext-unhandled-namespaces-03%23section-4>
        for signaling support for draft-ietf-regext-unhandled-namespaces.

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        *From: *regext <regext-boun...@ietf.org
        <mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Dmitry
        Belyavsky <beld...@gmail.com <mailto:beld...@gmail.com>>
        *Date: *Monday, October 12, 2020 at 3:16 PM
        *To: *John Levine <jo...@taugh.com <mailto:jo...@taugh.com>>
        *Cc: *"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenb...@verisign.com
        <mailto:shollenb...@verisign.com>>, "regext@ietf.org
        <mailto:regext@ietf.org>" <regext@ietf.org
        <mailto:regext@ietf.org>>
        *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version
        Notification for draft-belyavskiy-epp-eai-01.txt

        We could update the contact scheme version to indicate the EAI
        support as it is relevant for the contract mapping only.

        On Mon, 12 Oct 2020, 18:51 John Levine, <jo...@taugh.com
        <mailto:jo...@taugh.com>> wrote:

            In article <542572b0e6284550a9bee035bea2d...@verisign.com
            <mailto:542572b0e6284550a9bee035bea2d...@verisign.com>>
            you write:
            >   [SAH] Perhaps there’s a case to be made for RFC 6530
            being an update to RFC 5322. I’m going to see if I can run
            some tests to
            >confirm it, but I, too, suspect that EPP as-is won’t have
            any issues with internationalized email addresses.

            Urrgh.  RFC 6530 is not an update to 5322.  Don't go
            there.  I agree there is no
            great technical problem sending UTF-8 address strings
            through EPP.

            I'm getting the impression that what we need is a way for
            the client
            to ask the registry whether it can handle EAI addresses so
            it knows
            what to accept registrants.  I can imagine a variety of
            ways to do that.

            R's,
            John

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