Andy, should we get in on the DISPATCH discussion to note that we have similar 
concerns with jCard and RDAP? If there’s talk of a new WG it may make sense to 
add our requirements to the list.



Scott



From: regext <regext-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Newton
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:09 AM
To: Registration Protocols Extensions <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Fwd: [dispatch] Requesting DISPATCH of JSContact



As an FYI, we're not the only ones less than in love with jCard.



-andy



---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Bron Gondwana <br...@fastmailteam.com<mailto:br...@fastmailteam.com>>
Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:22 AM
Subject: [dispatch] Requesting DISPATCH of JSContact
To: <dispa...@ietf.org<mailto:dispa...@ietf.org>>



Hi All,



As work concludes on 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-calext-jscalendar-11 there is interest 
in doing the same thing with a format for contacts.



The JSCalendar work grew out of the JMAP specification at 
https://jmap.io/spec-calendars.html<https://jmap..io/spec-calendars.html> - 
there was interest in producing a standalone format which was JSON-native 
rather the RFC7265's quite mechanical translation of iCalendar, which is 
confusing and unfamiliar to programmers used to working with JSON data.



Likewise, JMAP Contacts contains an early attempt at translating VCARD into an 
easily understood JSON format.  The shape of it is defined at 
https://jmap.io/spec-contacts.html - though I expect it would undergo 
significant revision before submission for publication.   We are aware of both 
RFC6350 and RFC7095 and would both use them as a guideline and define mappings 
between them and a new JSON-first format.



I have already spoken to the ART ADs about this, and they agree that dispatch 
is the correct venue to discuss this proposal.  The JMAP working group could 
take it on, but has been mostly focused on the protocols around the formats 
rather than that formats itself (other than mail).  The CALEXT working group 
has would be a potential place, if it was to recharter and increase scope to 
both contacts and calendars (since they seem to travel together in many places 
due to the use of DAV for both).  Or maybe something else.



I'm also aware of work within ISO to define address formats and structured name 
formats which are less western-centric than the existing VCARD 'N' and 'ADR' 
structured fields.  This format would try to remain backwards compatible with 
those fields while having a defined way to express the new formats.



I have asked that the existing JMAP work be put into an initial draft so we 
have a baseline in IETF style, knowing full well that it is likely to change 
significantly.



Cheers,


Bron.



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  Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd

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