On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, Gould, James wrote:
To remove any concerns related to the inclusion of VSP policy in 
draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode, the sentence " The VSP MUST store the proof of 
verification and the generated verification code; and MAY store the verified data." 
can be removed.  If there are no objections to the removal of this sentence, it will be 
removed in the next version of the draft.

That's OK with me. I'm not totally opposed to it but without some hint about what an interoperating system would do with the object the token points to, I think it's confusing. As you can see, it confused me.


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On 1/2/19, 3:56 PM, "regext on behalf of John R Levine" <regext-boun...@ietf.org 
on behalf of jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

   On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, Adam Roach wrote:
   >>  I don't understand why.  The code is a signed token.  Imagine the 
registry
   >>  goes back to the signer asks about token 123-foo666 and the answer is
   >>  "We're the Ministry, we signed it, of course it's valid.  The details are
   >>  secret."
   >>
   >>  While that would not be my favorite way to work, and I can easily imagine
   >>  other scenarios with auditing and transparency business requirements, why
   >>  wouldn't that interoperate?
   >
   > If we're concerned merely with interoperation, the same is true of most --
   > if not all -- normative keywords used in "Security Considerations" 
sections.
   > Your position might (or might not) be correct, but the logic of "2119
   > language is only used for interoperabilty reasons" simply isn't true.

   I think there's a difference -- in security sections the goal is usually
   to prevent leakage or spoofing or something else that would allow a
   malicious party to interoperate with a victim.  One part of good interop
   is not to interoperate with attackers.  But that's not what's going on
   here.  The signature shows that the token is valid, and unless I'm missing
   something, whatever you might learn from the thing the token represents is
   outside the scope of EPP.

   Regards,
   John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
   Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly



Regards,
John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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