Benjamin,

A new version, draft-ietf-regext-change-poll-11, has been published that 
incorporates the updates based on your feedback. 

Thanks,
  
—
 
JG



James Gould
Distinguished Engineer
jgo...@verisign.com

703-948-3271
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On 12/10/18, 5:37 PM, "Benjamin Kaduk" <ka...@mit.edu> wrote:

    Thanks; this sounds like a good path forward.  I'll note that I'm on PTO
    this week, so I may be slow to respond to a new rev being issued.
    
    -Benjamin
    
    On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 04:48:18PM +0000, Gould, James wrote:
    > Benjamin,
    > 
    > Thank you for your review and feedback.  I provide responses to your 
feedback embedded below.
    >   
    > —
    >  
    > JG
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > James Gould
    > Distinguished Engineer
    > jgo...@verisign.com
    > 
    > 703-948-3271
    > 12061 Bluemont Way
    > Reston, VA 20190
    > 
    > Verisign.com <http://verisigninc.com/> 
    > 
    > On 12/7/18, 5:52 AM, "Benjamin Kaduk" <ka...@mit.edu> wrote:
    > 
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    >     draft-ietf-regext-change-poll-10: Discuss
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    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >     DISCUSS:
    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >     
    >     This is a fairly minor point, but the text of Section 2.3 implies 
that there is
    >     a distinct list of identifier types that the server MAY use (and thus 
that there would
    >     be a protocol element to convey such an identifier type), but the 
actual schema in
    >     Section 4.1 is clear that the <changePoll:who> element is just a 
freeform token with
    >     some modest length restrictions (i.e., no place for internal 
structure).  I'd like to
    >     hear from others on the IESG whether the text about the schema used 
being up
    >     to server policy is enough to make this clear, or we think there is 
some level of
    >     internal inconsistency in the document to be rectified.
    >     
    > JG - I'll provide a little bit more clarification around the basis for 
the use of a freeform token for the <changePoll:who> element.  The 
<changePoll:who> element is meant for audit purposes and is not meant for 
driving client-side logic, so use of a freeform token based on server policy is 
the best fit.  This is similar to the use of the <domain:crID> and 
<domain:upID> elements in RFC 5731, where identifying who created the domain 
name or updated the domain name is returned for audit purposes using a freeform 
token.         
    > 
    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >     COMMENT:
    >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >     
    >     Thanks for the generally well-written document!
    >     
    >     There are several places in the document where we read about a "list 
of [...]
    >     values includes" that is in fact required to be one of a fixed 
enumerated set
    >     of values.  In such cases I would suggest "comprises" or "is" rather 
than "includes",
    >     which could be taken to indicate the possibility of additional values 
being defined
    >     at a later time.  Section 2.1 has multiple instances of this, and 
Section 3.12. as well.
    > 
    > JG - Thanks, I see your point that using "include" can mean that there 
may be more.  I like the option of "is".  I'll make that change in the 
following places:
    > Section 2.1: "The enumerated list of <changePoll:operation> values 
include:" to "The enumerated list of <changePoll:operation> values is:"
    > Section 3.1.2: "The enumerated list of case types include:" to " The 
enumerated list of case types is:"
    >     
    >     Section 2.2
    >     
    >     Maybe state explicitly what it's inserted into, for clarity.
    > 
    > JG - I can update "... MUST be inserted prior to ..." to "... MUST be 
inserted into the message queue prior to ..."
    >     
    >     Section 2.3
    >     
    >     "CSR" could expand to either "Customer Support Representative" or
    >     "Certificate Signing Request" for some people.  I don't know if 
there's
    >     better name to suggest.
    > 
    > JG - I believe the reference to "CSR" as "Customer Support 
Representative" is pretty standard in the domain name industry with no 
confusion to a "CSR" in the digital certificate industry.  
    >     
    >     Section 2.4
    >     
    >     I don't know if it's worth saying anything that would remind 
recipients of
    >     their (non-?)obligation to accept time values that correspond to leap
    >     seconds, but IIRC we've seen cases in the past of software that 
chokes when
    >     presented with leap-second timestamps.
    >     
    > JG - This is standard boilerplate text in the EPP RFCs (RFC 5731 - 5733) 
that include timestamps, and I'm not aware of any EPP software issues 
associated with leap-second timestamps that warrants a reminder in this EPP 
draft.      
    >     
    > 
    

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