Hi Benjamin, I think the last issue was clarified as well. I will settle down to update the drafts to address all the comments. Thanks for your review and comments.
Regards, Linlin Linlin Zhou From: Benjamin Kaduk Date: 2018-11-13 23:06 To: Linlin Zhou CC: regext-chairs; Pieter Vandepitte; iesg; regext; draft-ietf-regext-org-ext Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Hi Linlin, I likewise forgot to look at the list archives for the HTML version. The proposed changes (from https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/regext/current/msg01984.html) look good to me. Thanks, Benjamin On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 09:28:34AM +0800, Linlin Zhou wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > Sorry that I forgot your email is text/plain. > Since we'v e already define "one or more <orgext:id> elements" in each > <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem> and <orgext:chg> element. So the following text > seems a little duplicated and will be removed. I add the text strikethrough > and you may not find that. > > The <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem> and <orgext:chg> elements contain the > following child element: > o One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of the > organization. The "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship that > the organization has to the object. See Section 7.3 in > [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > This bullet will be removed from section 4.2.5. (May last email add one more > sentence "Any given object MUST have at most one associated organization ID > for any given role value" by mistake and this should not exist). How about > changing like this? > > Regards, > Linlin > > > Linlin Zhou > > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Date: 2018-11-13 03:48 > To: Linlin Zhou > CC: regext-chairs; Pieter Vandepitte; iesg; regext; draft-ietf-regext-org-ext > Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > Hi Linlin, > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:15:24AM +0800, Linlin Zhou wrote: > > Dear Benjamin, > > James provided his suggestions and I'd like to include them in the updated > > text. I think this is the last issue we have and please see if these > > changes workable for you. > > I think this looks good, thank you! Just one minor thing (in the same vein > as my comment just now on the companion document)... > > > 1. In section 3.1 Organization Identifier, add sentences at the end of this > > paragraph. > > A "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship that the > > organization has to the EPP object. Any given object MUST have at most one > > associated organization ID for any given role value. > > > > 2. In section 4.1.2, > > Zero or more <orgext:id> elements are allowed that contain the identifier > > of the organization, as defined in [section 3.1]. The "role" attribute is > > used to represent the relationship that the organization has to the object. > > See Section 7.3 in [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > > > 3. In section 4.2.1, > > One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of the > > organization, as defined in [section 3.1]. The "role" attribute is used to > > represent the relationship that the organization has to the object. See > > Section 7.3 in [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > > > 4. In section 4.2.5, > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:add> element that contains one or more <orgext:id> > > elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that add non-existent organization > > roles to the object. The <orgext:id> element MUST have a non-empty > > organization identifier value. The server SHOULD validate that the > > <orgext:id> element role does not exist. > > > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:rem> element that contains one or more > > <orgext:id> elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that remove organization > > roles from the object. The <orgext:id> element MAY have an empty > > organization identifier value. The server SHOULD validate the existence of > > the <orgext:id> element role and the organization identifier if provided. > > > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:chg> element that one or more <orgext:id> > > elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that change organization role > > identifiers for the object. The existing organization identifier value will > > be replaced for the defined role. The server SHOULD validate the existence > > of the <orgext:id> element role. > > > > At least one <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem> or <orgext:chg> element MUST be > > provided. The <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem> and <orgext:chg> elements contain > > the following child element: > > > > o One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of the > > organization. The "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship > > that the organization has to the object. Any given object MUST have at most > > one associated organization ID for any given role value. See Section 7.3 in > > [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > ... this MUST duplicates the requirement from Section 3.1; it could instead > be "Any given object has at most one [...]", optionally with a reference up > to Section 3.1. > > -Benjamin > > > Regards, > > Linlin > > > > > > Linlin Zhou > > > > From: Linlin Zhou > > Date: 2018-11-06 09:18 > > To: jgould; ka...@mit.edu > > CC: regext-chairs; Pieter Vandepitte; iesg; regext; > > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext > > Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on > > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > Hi James, > > Thanks for your further suggestions. I'll include them in the updated > > version. > > > > Regards, > > Linlin > > > > > > zhoulin...@cnnic.cn > > > > From: Gould, James > > Date: 2018-11-02 20:25 > > To: ka...@mit.edu; zhoulin...@cnnic.cn > > CC: regext-cha...@ietf.org; pieter.vandepi...@dnsbelgium.be; i...@ietf.org; > > regext@ietf.org; draft-ietf-regext-org-...@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on > > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > I believe that we need to ensure that the 1-on-1 organization role mapping > > is consistently defined in the draft. The definition of the "role" > > attribute, the possible value can be referenced in section 7.3, and the > > relationship between the organization id and the role should certainly be > > defined in section 3.1. The definition in 3.1 can be referenced in the > > create (4.2.1) and info (4.1.2), as in "One or more <orgext:id> elements > > that contain the identifier of the organization, as defined in [section > > 3.1]." The update (4.2.5) is a little bit more complex to provide clarity > > on the behavior of the <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem> and the <orgext:chg>. > > The following bullet could be removed from the update (4.2.5): > > > > One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of > > the organization. The "role" attribute is used to represent the > > relationship that the organization has to the object. See > > Section 7.3 in [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > > > The reference to the <orgext:id> child elements and the expected behavior > > can be embedded under the definition of the <orgext:add>, <orgext:rem>, and > > <orgext:chg> elements, such as: > > > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:add> element that contains one or more > > <orgext:id> elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that add non-existent > > organization roles to the object. The <orgext:id> element MUST have a > > non-empty organization identifier value. The server SHOULD validate that > > the <orgext:id> element role does not exist. > > > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:rem> element that contains one or more > > <orgext:id> elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that remove organization > > roles from the object. The <orgext:id> element MAY have an empty > > organization identifier value. The server SHOULD validate the existence of > > the <orgext:id> element role and the organization identifier if provided. > > > > o An OPTIONAL <orgext:chg> element that one or more <orgext:id> > > elements, as defined in [section 3.1], that change organization role > > identifiers for the object. The existing organization identifier value > > will be replaced for the defined role. The server SHOULD validate the > > existence of the <orgext:id> element role. > > > > — > > JG > > > > > > > > James Gould > > Distinguished Engineer > > jgo...@verisign.com > > > > 703-948-3271 > > 12061 Bluemont Way > > Reston, VA 20190 > > > > Verisign.com <http://verisigninc.com/> > > > > On 11/1/18, 6:29 PM, "regext on behalf of Benjamin Kaduk" > > <regext-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of ka...@mit.edu> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 11:28:10AM +0800, Linlin Zhou wrote: > > > Dear Benjamin, > > > I found that following sections may be the proper place to restrict > > the 1-to-1 mapping. I think we can have restrictions in section 3.1 only or > > in 3.1&4.2.1&4.2.5. I've not decided which one is better and hope to have > > others' suggestions. > > > > I'd be happy to hear others' suggestions as well. I don't have a strong > > preference, but if forced to choose would put text in all three places. > > (That is, others should feel free to choose "just section 3.1" and not > > force me to choose, if they want.) > > > > Thanks for putting together the proposals, > > > > Benjamin > > > > > 1. In section 3.1 Organization Identifier, add sentences at the end > > of this paragraph. > > > A "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship that the > > organization has to the EPP object. Any given object MUST have at most one > > associated organization ID for any given role value. > > > > > > 2. In section 4.2.1, > > > One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of the > > organization. The "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship > > that the organization has to the object. Any given object MUST have at most > > one associated organization ID for any given role value. See Section 7.3 in > > [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > > > > > 3. In section 4.2.5 > > > One or more <orgext:id> elements that contain the identifier of the > > organization. The "role" attribute is used to represent the relationship > > that the organization has to the object. Any given object MUST have at most > > one associated organization ID for any given role value. See Section 7.3 in > > [ID.draft-ietf-regext-org] for a list of values. > > > > > > If we have the restrictions, the 1-to-multiple mapping cases are not > > necessary to be specified in this document. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Linlin > > > > > > > > > Linlin Zhou > > > > > > From: Benjamin Kaduk > > > Date: 2018-10-31 20:43 > > > To: Linlin Zhou > > > CC: regext-chairs; Pieter Vandepitte; iesg; regext; > > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext > > > Subject: Re: [regext] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on > > draft-ietf-regext-org-ext-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > > Dear Linlin, > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 02:19:45PM +0800, Linlin Zhou wrote: > > > > Dear Benjamin, > > > > Thanks for your input. We believe that relationship between an > > object and an organization should be 1-to-1, one organization ID with just > > one role. 1-to-many is an exception for the organization extension. Indeed > > that is our concern, "the multiple examples may be overkill". Many thanks. > > > > > > I won't object to requiring the 1-to-1 mapping, as the impact of the > > > restriction seems minor. I am not entirely sure where the best place > > to > > > add some text that clarifies this restriction would be; perhaps in > > Section > > > 4.2.1 where we describe the <orgext:id> elements in <create>? (I > > assume > > > that the formal syntax does not provide for a maxOccurs that applies > > > per-type.) It may also be worth a (non-normative) reminder in the > > <update> > > > description that the semantics of <orgext:chg> are well-defined > > because > > > there is only one entry per role value, but I'm not sure about that. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Benjamin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > regext mailing list > > > regext@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext > > > > _______________________________________________ > > regext mailing list > > regext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext > > > > _______________________________________________ > regext mailing list > regext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext _______________________________________________ regext mailing list regext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext
_______________________________________________ regext mailing list regext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext
