My take;

 Arkeia - nice looking interface but very complex to setup and use.  For an
enterprise level back-up with a full time backup operator it will be great.
They should have made an abbreviated setup for the smaller site.

ArcServe - should be in some other business.  Their products occasionally
don't work as advertized and their customer service is abominable.

BRU - don't have strong opinion either way, but it seems to be an adequate
system.

Look at Lone-Tar

http://199.72.66.91/ibapps/products.nsf/AK/9A090C5E9127CFE78525670E007C7DCF

Good luck,

Tom





"Adam Sleight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/27/2000 12:53:34 PM

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I plan on getting a new 2U rackmount with one 9G and two 36GB SCSI's for a
SAMBA server.
I use tar currently for my mail server and it works fine.  However, for
this SAMBA server
I'd prefer a "commercial" solution. I need to *remotely* backup/restore
this server...no
monitor or keyboard will be hooked up to this server. Any advice or
recommends (as they
say in Japanese music stores) will be appreciated.

In addition planning to get a external DLT 40/80GB tape drive $4500 (ouch).
Tapes around
$80 a pop this ain't gonna be cheap.  I wish we could go with a DDS-4
20/40GB tape drive
but it probably won't be big enough.  Or is it cheaper to get a DLT tape
library of a few
DLT 35/70GB tape drives?

************Commercial Backup Options********(any others?)

--BRU 16.0beta  downloaded it and it was easy to get working.  However, the
promised web
based administration wasn't available yet but should be soon for testing.
Kinda like
SWAT:901 for samba. http://www.estinc.com $299 (I think that is the price)

--Arkeia 4.2 30-day demo.  Going to try this once again.  Don't like the
interface all
that much but will reinstall and try to get the Web-based JAVA interface up
and going and
see what that is like. http://www.arkeia.com

these prices are from http://elinux.com
#57879 Arkeia Interactive Backup System $164
#57880 Arkeia Basic Linux Offering $289 (is this all I need?)
#57881 Arkeia Mini-LAN $479
#57882 Arkeia Enterprise-LAN $839
"Arkeia Linux as a Backup Solution" class....I wish I could have gone today
but couldn't
get away from work.  They had a free class at the La Jolla
Marriott...shucks would have
been a good overview I'm sure.

--ArcServeIT for Linux 6.61beta relased Jan 6th.  I wish I could login or
give this a test
drive.  Anyone have any luck? I guess to get support the email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  that's what the tech support phone dude told me to
try.
http://www.cai.com $695 Workgroup (think this is all I need) or $1395 for
Advanced
edition.

I've tried it on Redhat 6.2 English and got the web interface to come up
but wasn't able
to sucessfully login.  So I installed a fresh copy of Redhat 6.2 Japanese
and the
directory "ja" doesn't exist..thus the symbolic links aren't correct.  Yes
it supports
Japanese cuz I looked at the web interface images which have kanji, etc.
The "nls"
directory does exist just not the "ja" directory.

lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           33 Apr 27 08:39 asetup ->
/opt/ARCserveIT/lib/nls/ja/asetup
-rwxr-xr-x    1 bin      bin          4579 Jan  6 07:08 aslang_setup
-r-xr-xr-x    1 bin      ARCserve  3257408 Jan  6 07:08 asloggerd
-r-xr-xr-x    1 bin      ARCserve  4556282 Jan  6 07:08 asmediad
-rwxr-xr-x    1 bin      bin          8434 Jan  6 07:08 asmediad.pre
-rwxr-xr-x    1 bin      bin           718 Jan  6 07:08 asmediad.restart
-r-xr-xr-x    1 bin      ARCserve  3985368 Jan  6 07:08 asqd
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           33 Apr 27 08:39 astart ->
/opt/ARCserveIT/lib/nls/ja/astart
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           34 Apr 27 08:39 astatus ->
/opt/ARCserveIT/lib/nls/ja/astatus
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           32 Apr 27 08:39 astop ->
/opt/ARCserveIT/lib/nls/ja/astop

--adam http://www.myhq.com/public/m/r/mrbass/


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