* Earl Heather ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Tom
>
> I'm starting to feel like a tennis ball trying to follow your rants.
>
> Less than a week ago you posted on your own site a long diatribe
> on the impossibility of working with the E development group
>
> Raster Mandrake and KainX
Actually just Mandrake =P And it wasn't a diatribe, it was a good
humored rant with lots of smileys thrown in.
> No appreciation for your efforts or the efforts of anyone but
> themselves. You said you were never going to work with them again
Not quite.
> and no one else should either.
I never said anything of the sort. Don't misquote me in public, there's
a name for that =P
> Mandrake still has the link on his
> home page, but I see that you have removed your rant.
That was down to a simple misunderstanding, and is wholly irrelevant to
this issue. I can't imagine why you would bring it up :)
> Today, in a 180 degree reversal,
No. The issues are totally different, not opposites.
> you now complain that Redhat isn't including the latest version of E,
> even though you know that both Raster and Mandrake said goodbye to
> Gnome compatibility on anything but their terms when they started E16
> development.
What? This is not true. Noone says goodbye to anything!
> A simple example .....
> Gnome insists on handling session management .........
Yes. One of the issues I have is the lack of control you have over this
enforced session management.
> Enlightenment insists on handling session management ..........
Untrue. Nothing is insisted. E does absolutely *NO* session management
unless you tell it to. If you specifically right click on a title bar,
open the remember dialog and tell E to restart an app, it will.
Otherwise, there is none. It's totally optional. The winops menu that
contains this line is also user-definable. If the rpm spec file
installed a menus.cfg with this modification:
< ADD_MENU_TEXT_ITEM("Remember...", __A_SNAPSHOT, "dialog")
> /* ADD_MENU_TEXT_ITEM("Remember...", __A_SNAPSHOT, "dialog") */
The session management would NEVER APPEAR. Sheesh. Not hard.
> Guess what .... tell the rest of the world to F*CK OFF like these guys
> did ....... and you're on your own.
What? Who told who that? Noone. Please stop making this personal, it's
about free software.
> You know that better than most others here.
Obviously.
> Oh, by the way, I use E16 exclusively. I don't expect Redhat or
> Gnome to deliver it - I take care of that myself and so do most others
> that love Enlightenment.
So people who try it should get to see the latest and best, no?
> Your whining is just the BS that paints all of us E fans as idiots.
Whining? I have not at any stage whined. I am after an answer. Stop
making this personal.
> Take it back to the e-develop list where this discussion belongs.
Hah. Anyone on their behind Redhat's decision? No. I took this
discussion here, to get an answer from the people behind it. It couldn't
be more relavent here.
Tom.
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