This blows. I upgraded initscripts and my ability to make ppp connections broke. After some tweaking, if I down eth0, up ppp0 (using the ppp-on script from the pppd package), and then up eth0 things seem OK but the masq'd machines on my LAN cannot ping the outside world. By "ok" I mean that the route table looks like the "good" example in the PPP Howto with two ppp0 entires (one says 'default') and en entry for eth0 and lo. Anyone been there and solved this? -Alan Mead --- Alan D. Mead / Research Scientist / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute for Personality and Ability Testing 1801 Woodfield Dr / Savoy IL 61874 USA 217-352-4739 (v) / 217-352-9674 (f) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.