> > 2) As usual from all the upgrades, the upgrade method completely breaks > > down/destroys all the desktop URL shortcuts. After the upgrade you see > > urlABXCY86xErer or something like that and the shortcut is useless. Same > > thing happened in previous upgrades, every time I had to remove them and > > recreate them if I new where they pointed to. > > I never upgrade. I keep my /home directory on it's own partition and do > a fresh install everytime. This may be the source of many of the > problems you mention. >
I do the same thing, and it still gets me into trouble with settings in my home directory. The best thing to do is a fresh install without wiping the home directory, rename/move your users home directories, and then slowly and carefully move stuff back into the new home directories. > > 3) The "new" menu system of that blue thing is disappointing too. Can't find > > anything as I used to in my previous Gnome/Sawfish thing. There is no > > possibility > > to select other window managers even though the RPMs for those are > > installed? > > Yes, you can change your window manager (Metacity is the default under > RH 8.0). A 2 second search of Google turned this up: > > """ > from a terminal, run > killall metacity; sleep 3; sawfish > > after that, run > gnome-session-save > """ > This is likely not to work. killall -9 metacity ; sawfish is a better choice. I have in the past sometimes had to uninstall metacity to make sure it doesn't restart. > > So I guess that is it, after 10 years of being a fervent Linux user I have > > grown terribly disappointed :( and RH8.0 seems to have given the final blow > > to that. Anyway, if anybody knows solutions to the above mentioned issues > > I would appreciate it. > > The real solution is to realize that RedHat made great efforts with 8.0 > to make the desktop more usable for the average user but that this meant > widespread changes in the interface. Take the time to explore it a bit > before complaining about "serious" problems (of which you don't seem to > really have many, just annoyances). It doesn't seem to me that you've > really tried very hard as many of the things you complain about are just > a few mouse clicks away. While having a familiar system change > underneath of you can be frustrating, it certainly isn't unique to > RedHat or even Linux (consider WinXP). If everything stayed the same, > we'd still be using FVWM or TWM. If you've used Linux for 10 years I'd > expect you'd show a little more tenacity than that <wink>. > > Hang in there, I agree and disagree. RedHat and Gnome have made many bad efforts to make 8.0 worse desktop. I do agree much of it is just changes to how you do things, though many of the changes go too far. I could rant about many more serious problems with 8.0. I hope to see them properly addressed with 8.1(hence why I am running Phoebe right now). IMHO 8.0 shouldn't have even been released, or should have been released in a very different form. Many of the things included in 8.0 needed another 6 months or more of maturing before they were really ready. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list