On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Daniel Roesen wrote:
> > There should be NO pre-requisite that a box have a working X server
> > just to be able to configure its printers. Or anything else.
I certainly concur.
... netcfg and netconf are also a similar pair of offenders. I just
give up and install a very minimal X and fvwm subset -- but
configuring remotely across a dialup ppp link is _almost_ impossible
[but I've done it].
(Example: on a remote host, managing through an ssh connection)
[herrold@new herrold]$ sudo netconf
Password:
channel 0: istate 4 !=open
channel 0: ostate 64 != open
Error message from remadmin
:Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to [the localhost]:10.0
broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[herrold@new herrold]$ ssh root@localhost
root@localhost's password:
Last login: Tue Dec 5 14:53:56 2000 from [snip]
[root@new /root]# netconf
(text subset console appears, to Linuxconf's credit -- lots of
HTML type doc's but no Unix info or man pages ...)
[root@new /root]# man netconf
No manual entry for netconf
[root@new /root]# info netconf
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@new /root]# rpm -qf `which netconf`
linuxconf-1.17r2-6
---------------------------
[herrold@new herrold]$ sudo netcfg
Password:
(This will work locally -- bail out after waiting 5 min for a
x-display to pop back on my local admin host
-- no text interface ...)
[herrold@new herrold]$ man netcfg
No manual entry for netcfg
[herrold@new herrold]$ info netcfg
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[herrold@new herrold]$ rpm -qf `which netcfg`
netcfg-2.25-1
[herrold@new herrold]$ rpm -ql netcfg
/etc/X11/wmconfig/netcfg
/usr/bin/netcfg
/usr/lib/rhs/control-panel/netcfg.init
/usr/lib/rhs/control-panel/netcfg.xpm
/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg
/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.py
/usr/lib/rhs/netcfg/netcfg.pyc
/usr/share/icons/netcfg.xpm
[herrold@new herrold]$
(My point: Nothing in /usr/doc, or the new 7.x /usr/share/doc ...
the coredumps by info are its endearing way of reporting that no
info page was found (smile) ... )
But consider RH's POV. It is not as glitzy to complete this part of
the featureset -- dialup is not growing -- TUIs are disfavored --
small unix tools are disfavored -- documentation is left to last.
I usually just copy a set of pre-built template files over, and sand
and trim to fit ...
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-- Russ Herrold
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