Whither backups?  A journaled filesystem will NOT protect against: 1)
failed hard drive; 2) hacker damage; 3) virus/worm damage; 4) accidental
file deletions or modifications.  In my experience managing about 300
computers, hard drives fail more often than it is necessary to run fsck
"manually."  I think "spreading the gospel" about making regular backups
is at least as important as a journaled filesystem.

It would also be a good idea to have some hardcopy documentation which
explains these sorts of recovery procedures since you can't get to
online documentation if your system is down--I think there's something
in LDP but I don't know off the top of my head.  BTW you could have used
e2fsck with the "-y" flag and not have to hit "y" a billion times, or
you could have piped the "yes" command to e2fsck like "yes | e2fsck." 
In any case, "killer apps" and ease of use are apt to be more important
factors in attracting unsophisticated users rather than a journaled FS
IMHO.

Back to the original issue, a ReiserFS packaged kernel sounds like a job
for folks involved with the development of ReiserFS, or possibly for
inclusion in Powertools, but not in the standard distribution since I
don't think it's the sort of thing you want an unsophisticated user to
muck around with.  Knowing how to patch and build your own custom kernel
seems like a fair piece of prerequisite knowledge to have before
experimenting with ReiserFS.  Software RAID did eventually find its way
into the stock kernel, but not until it was reasonably stable and safe
for the unwashed masses.

John Summerfield wrote:
> 
> > -"No.  I know of a litterture professor who after an untimely powerdown,
> > found that the automatic fsck failed so he was asked to repair manualy
> > and found himself unable to do it"
> >
> > Losing important data due to an untimely crash or powerdown is also an
> > issue in serious applications.
> 
> Hear Hear!!
> 
> Just went throughh that yesterday, RHL 6.3. I'm not competent to run that
> wretched program in manuam mode, and I doubth that anyone on this list is.
> 
> Certainly nobody's going to take the time to give a considered reply to each
> and every of the thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of questions it asked me.
> I held "y" down and still it took an hour or so.

-- 
"Jonathan F. Dill" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CARB Systems and Network Administrator
Home Page:  http://www.umbi.umd.edu/~dill



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