Hello, I had a clean install of Redhat 6.1 with all updates applied. I then downloaded the current snapshot of the emu10k1 (soundblaster live) driver and compiled and installed it per their instructions and the joystick worked (soundcore, emu10k1, joystick, joy-gravis.) The only error I got was about the measured PIT speed being wrong. when the joystick.o module loads. But the joystick still works. (not full range) I then did a clean install of the current Rawhide (20000228.) I first tried the emu10k1 driver that came with rawhide and the joystick did not work. I then used the same snapshot and compiled and installed it the same way and on it the joystick fails to work on it also, both with the same error message. insmod soundcore - no errors insmod emu10k1 joystick=0x200 - no errors insmod joystick - no error insmod joy-gravis - error The error message I get is this... using /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/joy-gravis.o joy-gravis: no joysticks found /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/joy-gravis.o: init_module: Device or resource busy. -- Best regards, Robin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null