If anything, I'd be surprised that a 1.2 ratio is better than a 1.0 ratio.
Although, maybe the fact that an inverter is generally more efficient when
loaded closer to its rating compensates for some of the clipping with a
higher DC to AC ratio.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 4:04 PM Rebekah Hren via RE-wrenches <
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> I agree with Mike, because you can't change the inverter size in PVwatts*
> directly, i*t is just a percentage of the array size based on what ratio
> you choose. So if you change the ratio you aren't increasing the array
> size.
>
> So that 1 kW array in your example values is paired with an 660 watt
> inverter at 1.5 ratio in the program.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 1:44 PM jay via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
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>> HI David,
>>
>> My point exactly.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2025, at 1:35 PM, david quattro via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
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>> Jay you are right - that doesn’t make sense because with more PV, the
>> system will reach “max AC out“ power sooner every morning and hold it
>> longer into the evening
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 12:20 PM George McClellan via RE-wrenches <
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>>> Probably due to clipping.  The panels are generating more energy than
>>> the power electronics can process, so that excess energy gets cut off (or
>>> clipped).  It looks like a 1.2 ratio is optimal.
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>>> I’m working with a customer who’s pretty savvy and is using PV watts for
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>>> What I can’t figure out is the kwh/year goes down if he uses dc/ac
>>> ration of 1.5 instead of 1.2 which is the default.
>>>
>>> Hes in Santa Fe NM.
>>>
>>> .8   ratio=  1663 kwh/yr
>>> 1.0 ratio = 1668 kwh/yr
>>> 1.2 ratio =  1671 kwh/yr
>>> 1.5 ratio = 1623 kwh/yr
>>>
>>> I was expecting that more PV = more kWh/yr.
>>>
>>> What am i missing?
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