I hate to be the one to say it but LFP has arguably less fire risk than agm. A short circuit in an agm could be disastrous and AGM is not necessarily any safer or less prone to thermal runaway events than modern LFP. I'd recommend a cobalt free LFP like homegrid, simpliphi, or midnite if it were me..
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025, 3:38 PM jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > I was going to try and steer her towards lithium but she wants zero, > absolutely zero chance of fire, so no lithium. > > great batteries though > > jay > > > > On Jan 11, 2025, at 4:35 PM, MD Electric & Solar via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > 30KWH of LFP from discover energy, fits in one enclosure, around $14000.00 > Enclosure is indoor/outdoor rated. > > https://discoverenergysys.com/products/lithium-batteries/aes-rackmount > https://discoverenergysys.com/products/accessories/slimline-enclosure > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 3:31 PM jay via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> HI Willam >> >> Thanks for the input. >> I didn’t know that trojan was sold, and from what you say, yeah scratch >> them off. >> >> It’s currently at 30kwh. And thats probably a good size. >> As always, cost and time is a factor. >> >> I’ll check the others out. >> >> jay >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jan 11, 2025, at 4:17 PM, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Jay: >> > >> > What AH or Kwh level are you looking for? >> > >> > Trojan was acquired by another company a few years ago and quality had >> gone >> > downhill. >> > >> > Rolls is very sensitive to high temperatures. They will deny a warranty >> > claim if all of your parameters are not exactly right. >> > >> > For larger AH systems: >> > >> > I like the Full River DC-400-2. You might be able to do a one string >> > installation. >> > >> > Unigy II is a great system. Very robust. Hard to deliver but I can >> offer >> > tips. Lots of AH size options. >> > >> > William >> > >> > Miller Solar >> > 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 >> > 805-438-5600 >> > www.millersolar.com >> > CA Lic. 773985 >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On >> > Behalf Of jay via RE-wrenches >> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:48 PM >> > To: RE-wrenches >> > Cc: jay >> > Subject: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery recommendations >> > >> > Hi All >> > >> > I have a customer what is set on AGM. >> > >> > It been so long since I’ve bought any, wondering if there are any >> > recommendations? >> > >> > The ones I’m looking at: >> > >> > Rolls S6-460AGM-RE >> > >> > Full river DC-400-6 >> > >> > Trojan SAES 06 375 6V >> > >> > sun Xtender brand. >> > >> > What’s interesting is the trojan has about 3000 cycles vs the others at >> > around 1250 cycles to 50%. >> > Im wondering if that is a marketing idea or if its real. >> > >> > thanks in advance >> > >> > jay >> > _______________________________________________ >> > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> > >> > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> > >> > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> > >> > Change listserver email address & settings: >> > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> > >> > There are two list archives for searching. 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