Jay, I have not tried it with anything but the Midnite BMS, so no personal experience. Midnite says it is compatible with others, and I will take William's word that it is compatible with Pylon protocol. Howie
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 10:32 AM William Bryce via RE-wrenches < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jay > > The AIO will work with any battery that uses the Pylon battery protocall. > You can find some Youtube videos of it being used with the EG4 wall mount > batteries. > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 9:29 AM jay via RE-wrenches < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> HI Howie, >> >> Does the AIO communicate with other brands of batteries? >> >> I concure about using batteries/inverters from same OEM, its my >> preference. >> >> Jay >> >> On Jul 20, 2024, at 6:37 PM, Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have been testing a pre-production model of Midnite's AIO (All in One) >> inverter/charge controller in my off-grid house (replaced a dual stacked >> VFX3648, Midnite Classic200 and an AC coupled SunnyBoy), and while I >> haven't put it through any serious tests yet, I am impressed with its >> functions and spec's. I also have a couple of 5kWh LiFePO4 batteries with >> their BMS that I just added to the system (replacing a 1300 ah 2-volt >> Lead-Acid battery bank), and the integration was seamless (really plug and >> play, compared to an often more complicated pairing between other >> all-in-ones I've been installing (Sol-Ark, Fortress). I've gotten a sneak >> peak at their monitoring site which is still under intensive development, >> and what I've seen looks pretty good. I was not a fan of the all-in-ones >> when they started to flood the market (Sonnen, Pika/Generac, etc.) >> especially ones with the batteries integrated. But I have converted over >> to them almost exclusively as they are much simpler for my clients to >> understand - their programming and operation as well as their >> communications are much better integrated and cleaner in my opinion. They >> of course have had power issues and firmware headaches, which is why I am >> sticking to inverters and batteries from the same manufacturer. I will keep >> you all up to date on my experience with the production model of the >> Midnite AIO as I install them and with the Midnite LiFePO4 batteries as >> they become available. >> >> Howie Michaelson >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 7:26 PM Dan Fink via RE-wrenches < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> James Showalter from Signature Solar and Eric Lundgren from Big Battery >>> purchased Outback Solar. I have had terrible tech support experiences from >>> both of those outfits, they tend to conveniently "forget" your engineering >>> and NEC code compliance support requests when the answer is just simply >>> "no, not yet UL listed" or "we don't know if that feature works or not." >>> I'm not sure how these prolific suppliers of cheap crap products with >>> terrible QC and NIB failure rates intend to compete, but my guess is that >>> they have control of the big crap overseas product pipeline nozzle and >>> intend to steer the huge stream of sewage in our direction. Sol-Ark just >>> imports Deye products and retrofits them with their own upgrades and >>> firmware. Magnum has vanished, much to my dismay as my own system is Magnum >>> as are dozens of my customers. >>> >>> Us off-grid folks still have a couple guys named boB and Robin at >>> Midnite that still manufacture, sell and support good products. Maybe >>> Morningstar will up their game into larger inverters. Why are all these >>> shady import companies based in Texas? Inquiring minds want to know! BTW, I >>> hate all-in-ones, never had a single good experience, just endless firmware >>> and comms updates and such simple issues resulting in multiple truck rolls. >>> >>> I miss Lones Tuss of Outback calling me back on a Friday evening at 7PM >>> and remotely diagnosing my client's VFX / Mate 3S issues whilst doing his >>> laundry at home, after I submitted a ticket earlier that day. The client >>> seriously thought I was pulling a practical joke on him until I put Lones >>> on speaker. >>> >>> Strange new world for us off-grid folks. I'll have to stick with the >>> very few companies left that I trust. Yes, yes, Schneider, but their tech >>> support is almost impenetrable. >>> >>> Our strange new off-grid world seems to be destined as crap from Alibaba >>> and Amazon, and it all smells rather off to me, like the "fresh fish" at a >>> run-down Safeway in eastern Kansas.... >>> >>> Dan Fink >>> Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC >>> IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation >>> NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector >>> NABCEP PV Associate >>> d <[email protected]>[email protected] >>> 970-672-4342 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 3:22 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I just checked the OB forums page and there is nothing current. >>>> >>>> One thing I found says that the new president of OB is the CEO of Big >>>> Battery. I don’t know that to be a fact. >>>> Which is also somehow related to signature solar/ EG4. >>>> >>>> My guess is that if/when OB resurfaces it won’t have the same products. >>>> It’ll just be an old name selling new products and they won’t be dealing >>>> with old legacy products, warranty or MX or tech support. >>>> >>>> I could be way wrong. >>>> >>>> But anyone trying to keep a product line going wouldn’t just stop all >>>> communication for a few months. >>>> >>>> Maybe someone who has been an OB distributor might know more about >>>> what’s up? I no longer have any of those contacts. >>>> >>>> New world, fellow wrenches. >>>> >>>> Jay >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> There are two list archives for searching. 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