HI Howie,

Does the AIO communicate with other brands of batteries?

I concure about using batteries/inverters from same OEM, its my preference.  

Jay

> On Jul 20, 2024, at 6:37 PM, Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches 
> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> 
> I have been testing a pre-production model of Midnite's AIO (All in One) 
> inverter/charge controller in my off-grid house (replaced a dual stacked 
> VFX3648, Midnite Classic200 and an AC coupled SunnyBoy), and while I haven't 
> put it through any serious tests yet, I am impressed with its functions and 
> spec's.  I also have a couple of 5kWh LiFePO4 batteries with their BMS that I 
> just added to the system (replacing a 1300 ah 2-volt Lead-Acid battery bank), 
> and the integration was seamless (really plug and play, compared to an often 
> more complicated pairing between other all-in-ones I've been installing 
> (Sol-Ark, Fortress). I've gotten a sneak peak at their monitoring site which 
> is still under intensive development, and what I've seen looks pretty good. I 
> was not a fan of the all-in-ones when they started to flood the market 
> (Sonnen, Pika/Generac, etc.) especially ones with the batteries integrated.  
> But I have converted over to them almost exclusively as they are much simpler 
> for my clients to understand - their programming and operation as well as 
> their communications are much better integrated and cleaner in my opinion. 
> They of course have had power issues and firmware headaches, which is why I 
> am sticking to inverters and batteries from the same manufacturer. I will 
> keep you all up to date on my experience with the production model of the 
> Midnite AIO as I install them and with the Midnite LiFePO4 batteries as they 
> become available.
> 
> Howie Michaelson
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 7:26 PM Dan Fink via RE-wrenches 
> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote:
> James Showalter from Signature Solar and Eric Lundgren from Big Battery 
> purchased Outback Solar. I have had terrible tech support experiences from 
> both of those outfits, they tend to conveniently "forget" your engineering 
> and NEC code compliance support requests when the answer is just simply "no, 
> not yet UL listed" or "we don't know if that feature works or not." I'm not 
> sure how these prolific suppliers of cheap crap products with terrible QC and 
> NIB failure rates intend to compete, but my guess is that they have control 
> of the big crap overseas product pipeline nozzle and intend to steer the huge 
> stream of sewage in our direction. Sol-Ark just imports Deye products and 
> retrofits them with their own upgrades and firmware. Magnum has vanished, 
> much to my dismay as my own system is Magnum as are dozens of my customers.
> 
> Us off-grid folks still have a couple guys named boB and Robin at Midnite 
> that still manufacture, sell and support good products. Maybe Morningstar 
> will up their game into larger inverters. Why are all these shady import 
> companies based in Texas? Inquiring minds want to know! BTW, I hate 
> all-in-ones, never had a single good experience, just endless firmware and 
> comms updates and such simple issues resulting in multiple truck rolls.
> 
> I miss Lones Tuss of Outback calling me back on a Friday evening at 7PM and 
> remotely diagnosing my client's VFX / Mate 3S issues whilst doing his laundry 
> at home, after I submitted a ticket earlier that day. The client seriously 
> thought I was pulling a practical joke on him until I put Lones on speaker.
> 
> Strange new world for us off-grid folks. I'll have to stick with the very few 
> companies left that I trust. Yes, yes, Schneider, but their tech support is 
> almost impenetrable. 
> 
> Our strange new off-grid world seems to be destined as crap from Alibaba and 
> Amazon, and it all smells rather off to me, like the "fresh fish" at a 
> run-down Safeway in eastern Kansas....
> 
> Dan Fink
> Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
> IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation
> NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector
> NABCEP PV Associate
> d <mailto:dan.f...@greendustrialtraining.com>anbo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:anbo...@gmail.com>
> 970-672-4342
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 3:22 PM Jay via RE-wrenches 
> <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote:
> I just checked the OB forums page and there is nothing current. 
> 
> One thing I found says that the new president of OB is the CEO of Big 
> Battery. I don’t know that to be a fact. 
> Which is also somehow related to signature solar/ EG4. 
> 
> My guess is that if/when OB resurfaces it won’t have the same products. It’ll 
> just be an old name selling new products and they won’t be dealing with old 
> legacy products, warranty or MX or tech support. 
> 
> I could be way wrong. 
> 
> But anyone trying to keep a product line going wouldn’t just stop all 
> communication for a few months. 
> 
> Maybe someone who has been an OB distributor might know more about what’s up? 
>  I no longer have any of those contacts. 
> 
> New world, fellow wrenches. 
> 
> Jay
> 
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