Bill, Now that you mention it I did not have an SPD near the inverter, I have one on 1 of 2 TOP Racks, other rack with old Delta... My inverter lives on my workbench to allow swapping other inverters in for load testing using my whole house with everything connected to ancient wiring which did not include an SPD. I put them on all my customers' systems and have had no issues on most of them and have never had to replace one. . I have removed lots of those grey cans but have not taken care of my own system !!! The Fortress eflex was not fully protected either. That strike would have been the perfect test of the SPD's if I had them all installed. I had a perfect real world test of Outbacks ACA with surge protection on two GVFX inverters that had annual lightning failure until I installed their surge protectors. There have been no more failures since (at least 10 years) The lightning was so severe at that location that the power company was constantly having issues on that power line.
John On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 12:31 AM Bill Battagin via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > John, > > Just curious if you had SPDs (like Midnites) in either > system? AC side, DC side > > Bill > > Feather River Solar Electric > Bill Battagin, owner > 4291 Nelson St. (Shipping) > 5575 Genesee Rd. (USPS, UPS) > Taylorsville, CA 95983 > 530-284-7849, 258-1641(cell) > CA. C10 Lic # 874049 > Solar Powered since 1982 > Home of the Sunny Side Up > > On 4/10/2024 6:01 AM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches wrote: > > Time will tell where the failure modes are. I still don't like all the > eggs in one basket. Do you have to send the units back for repair? Had > enough of that with Trace SW series inverters.. > For off grid, I'll stick to the tried and true for now. For Grid tie it > is just a financial hit. For off-grid power loss it is more important > to deal with right away.. > > I am going to try a Fortress Envy at my off grid home but will keep my > Outback field repairable VFXR wired in just in case. I had a massive > lightning strike between my house and a guest cabin 1/4 mile away and I > lost power from my Fortress Eflex battery at the cabin and my Outback > inverter at my house. I replaced the control board on my inverter ( I > always keep one in reserve as it is usually the only board failure due to > lightning) and was back on line in 1/2 hour and Fortress rushed me a new > BMS board for the E-flex and a day later and a half hour swap had it back > in service, Now it is a different story with 2 Simpliphi batteries I have > from a customer that failed. I have to ship them to California to have > them evaluated to see if we had damaged them by misuse. Lots of expense > and time lost. > > > > John Blittersdorf > CV Wind Service / Off Grid Vermont > 802-770-8625 > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:43 PM Scot Arey via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p >> pass thru it would be near perfect. >> >> Begs the question: are stand alone charge controllers becoming a >> historical artifact? >> >> Howard "Scot" Arey >> Owner, Solar CenTex >> 254-300-1228 >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & > settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free.www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > <#m_492919807829329248_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > >
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