Maverick The new inverter is NOT a rebrand. The Inverter is mainly designed by Midnite Solar, and is manufactured at a Tier 1 facility in Asia. It is a MNS Prodcut through and Through, just missing the cool cabinet and black paint.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 1:06 PM Maverick Brown <maver...@mavericksolar.com> wrote: > Logan > > Is MidNite making the AIO or is it rebrand like the other guys? > > If MidNite is actually making it, that adds a whole new level of interest. > MidNite makes great products already. This would be a game changer. > > > Thank you, > > Maverick > > Maverick Brown > Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 > Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. > • Solar Commander Remote Power > • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection > maver...@mavericksolar.com > 512-460-9825 > > > > On Apr 10, 2024, at 10:54 AM, William Bryce via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > All > > As a Beta tester and being a part of the development of the MNS All in > One, MNS is working to ensure that the current limitations from the use > of LA batteries will be addressed and supported. > > MNS is addressing the concerns of using an AOI inverter because failure > will require the R&R of the unit. This AIO is designed to be > completely field serviceable and MNS will stock the boards and will > provide the technical help to get the system back up and running in the > field. > > Thanks > > Logan > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 11:01 AM Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> Good Morning Wrenches... >> >> When it comes to lead batteries, just be cautious of the all-in-ones and >> some of the hybrid inverters. >> >> Most of these inverters were not designed for Lead batteries and will >> struggle to charge them, resulting in sulfation (undercharging) issues. >> Eventually, this will lead to swelling of VRLA or excessive gassing on >> Flooded Batteries. Unfortunately, many of the "Hybrid" or "All-in-One" >> inverters released in the past 5-8 years are tailored more to >> lithium-chemistry batteries. I can't tell you how many battery banks have >> been cooked over the past couple of years due to the inability to control >> charging settings. >> >> If you can't control the Bulk/Absorb Voltage and Time, as well as the end >> amps termination setpoints, you will generally struggle to get and keep a >> Lead-Acid battery charged regardless of the battery you are using. >> >> I looked at the Midnite site and I don't see a user manual yet, once >> it's posted I'll take a look and see if it's compatible for Rolls >> Batteries, I'm pretty sure it will as Midnight has been asking battery >> charging questions the last couple of years. >> >> >> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> <http://www.rollsbattery.com> >> Steve Higgins ⋅ Technical Services Manager >> t +1.902.597.4020 m +1.206.790.5840 >> f +1.902.597.8447 e st...@surrette.com >> <http://www.facebook.com/RollsBattery> >> <https://www.youtube.com/user/RollsBattery> >> <https://www.youtube.com/RollsBatteryEngineering> >> <https://www.youtube.com/RollsBatteryEngineering> >> <https://www.youtube.com/RollsBatteryEngineering> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/rolls-battery-engineering> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/rolls-battery-engineering> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/rolls-battery-engineering> >> <http://www.instagram.com/RollsBattery> >> <http://www.instagram.com/RollsBattery> >> ------------------------------ >> CONFIDENTIALITY: The information transmitted herein is intended only for >> the addressee and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged >> material. 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Even though Fortress sales advertises >>> the Envy to be compatible with lead-acid, after trying it in my off-grid >>> home, I would emphatically say that it is not. The programming is >>> inadequate, to put it kindly. And their support really doesn't have a clue >>> about lead-acid - Fortress support literally said that they don't recommend >>> pairing the Envy with l-a. However, I don't have an opinion about how it >>> does with closed loop Li batteries. >>> I did recently install an EG4 18k system, off-grid, with the client's >>> knowledge that this was a bit of an experiment for me. Both the Envy and >>> the EG4 are made by LuxPower and have been, to date, physically and >>> programmatically almost identical. I had stayed away from EG4 since it >>> seemed to be primarily aimed at the DIY market. However, the 18k appears to >>> be a serious contender so far, although this installation is a fairly low >>> stress situation. I've been fairly impressed with the system. While this >>> 18k is paired with EG4 Lithium batteries, EG4 has been making adjustments >>> to the firmware to make it much more friendly to lead-acid. If you decide >>> to go this route, check with EG4 (installer support - ask for Jarrett or >>> Colt) to see where they are at with upgrading the firmware. >>> I am also eagerly awaiting Midnite's AIO entry... >>> >>> Howie >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:02 AM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches < >>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Time will tell where the failure modes are. I still don't like all >>>> the eggs in one basket. Do you have to send the units back for repair? Had >>>> enough of that with Trace SW series inverters.. >>>> For off grid, I'll stick to the tried and true for now. For Grid tie >>>> it is just a financial hit. For off-grid power loss it is more important >>>> to deal with right away.. >>>> >>>> I am going to try a Fortress Envy at my off grid home but will keep my >>>> Outback field repairable VFXR wired in just in case. I had a massive >>>> lightning strike between my house and a guest cabin 1/4 mile away and I >>>> lost power from my Fortress Eflex battery at the cabin and my Outback >>>> inverter at my house. I replaced the control board on my inverter ( I >>>> always keep one in reserve as it is usually the only board failure due to >>>> lightning) and was back on line in 1/2 hour and Fortress rushed me a new >>>> BMS board for the E-flex and a day later and a half hour swap had it back >>>> in service, Now it is a different story with 2 Simpliphi batteries I have >>>> from a customer that failed. I have to ship them to California to have >>>> them evaluated to see if we had damaged them by misuse. Lots of expense >>>> and time lost. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Blittersdorf >>>> CV Wind Service / Off Grid Vermont >>>> 802-770-8625 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:43 PM Scot Arey via RE-wrenches < >>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p >>>>> pass thru it would be near perfect. >>>>> >>>>> Begs the question: are stand alone charge controllers becoming a >>>>> historical artifact? >>>>> >>>>> Howard "Scot" Arey >>>>> Owner, Solar CenTex >>>>> 254-300-1228 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>> >>>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>>> >>>>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>>>> >>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>> >>>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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