Jeff, I don't know how much pricing has changed lately but the Kohler 12RES was going for around $5,000 with a two-wire start built-in. That's only $500 more than the smaller generator with a lot more capacity. I don't think they make it in gasoline so you'd have to use propane.
Thanks, Will On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:09 AM Jeff Clearwater < je...@villagepowerdesign.com> wrote: > Hi Ray, > > Yes indeed I'm used to 10-30 KW gensets as I mostly do larger systems so > I've fallen out of experience with smaller sets. I've been specing mostly > diesels. Used to install Onan propane sets years ago but those can be > pricey too. > > This is a customer that has been buying $1000 gensets and starting > manually and abusing their lead-acids so I've been after them to get an > decent auto-start genset - so even the $4K+ for the Honda (plus the $400 > for the remote start module) is a steep change for them. I installed the > $350 Conext AGS module 2 years ago when I built the system but they never > got a decent genny that it could trigger. > > So looking for less than $6K options for them in autostart. > > It's a very modest load/system - a 6 KW inverter with 32 KWhrs (16 usable) > of Surrettes. 3 KW of solar all mounted in/on a dual axle cargo trailer - > they use only fridges and lights but they have a damn sewage pump - which > is why we upgraded from a 4 KW Conext to a 6 KW. > > So yes very open to the low end of the larger sets - any small 8-12 KW > diesels our there for reasonable price? Or propane units that will last? > I'd love to go 1800 rpm for them but within the budget - not sure it's > possible? and of course that is decent wave-form to make the Conext XW Pro > happy. > > Thanks for redirecting - a welcome input for sure! > > Best, > > Jeff > > > Ray <r...@solarray.com> > January 17, 2022 at 8:11 PM > > I have a question: why so small a generator? I've always regretted under > sizing the genny for battery charging. Larger gensets are not as fuel > hungry as you might think. I was surprised recently when I did some calcs, > and found that a larger genset would actually get slightly better fuel > consumption at the proposed load. > > Plus the larger gensets are usually built to last longer than the portable > stuff. > Ray Walters > Remote Solar > 303 505-8760 > On 1/17/22 5:33 PM, Jeff Clearwater wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > Jeff Clearwater <je...@villagepowerdesign.com> > January 17, 2022 at 4:33 PM > Hello Again All, > > Or I'd consider suggesting propane to the customer as well. Any > experience with know compatibles in propane? > > txnks > > jc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. 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