Yesterday, I was able to upload firmware to the Mate 3s, and the GS4048
and program it for AC coupling. I did not realize a firmware update
would shut down the inverter (makes sense that it does), so that was a
bit of a surprise, but all in all it went very well. The Mate3s
firmware was out of date by almost a year, and that did not allow the
inverter firmware and its AC coupling capability to be set. Once I
update the Mate3s, I was able to specify AC coupling. Thanks for all the
suggestions and I know I will be able to use them in other situations.
Chris
On 11/24/2021 2:39 PM, Christopher Warfel wrote:
Thanks to everyone, the setting I had said AC coupling No. I did not
realize that a firmware upgrade could enable that. I think it is best
to try frequency shift for this particular case. Thanks again to
everyone. Chris
On 11/24/2021 12:38 PM, Tuss, Lones wrote:
Hello Chris
Sorry for the slow response I foolishly took a couple of days of
vacation.
I see this system is on Optics. The GS4048A inverter can do AC
Coupling with frequency shift. It will need to be upgraded from the
current rev of 001.006.063 to 001.007.070 below is a link to
that firmware.
https://outbackpower.com/resources-mobile/technical-support/firmware-updates/item/radian-series-firmware-updates
Once the new firmware is installed will need to change the default
Installer password of 1732 to a different 4 digit number after doing
so In the inverter you can go to the menu and enable AC Coupling.
Below are instructions for changing the default Installer Password.
https://outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/system_management/mate3s/mate3s_programmingguide_web.pdf
please see S-16 in the manual above.
Below is a link to the AC Coupling App Note
https://outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/appnotes/ac_coupling_radian.pdf
I too speak English as my native foreign language below is a link to
Fowlers Modern English Usage
It has helped me to spoke more lucidly and communicate more better.
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Thanks for using OutBack
Chris you have my # if you have questions.
Have a good Thanksgiving and Stay Safe.
Take Care All
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What I am worried about is the microinverter system operating when
the utility goes down and the microinverters continuing to operate
and charge the batteries as a load. I need to disconnect the
microinverter circuit only when the batteries are fully charged in
grid isolated mode. All the ways I can think of that would normally
work to deenergize the microinverters automatically based upon
battery voltage won't work. I can submit a drawing if that would
help. I am trying not to run another conductor circuit from the house
to the garage. I realize that would solve the problem, but it is an
expensive solution. English is my foreign native language.
On 11/23/2021 10:39 AM, August Goers wrote:
Hi Chris - If I'm following you right, you have a PV system on a
detached garage that ties into a backup subpanel also in the
garage? The code only requires the RSID (rapid shutdown
initiation device) to be on the exterior of the building. Would
it work to put the RSID on the garage exterior? You could route
your PV circuits to a switch or switches on the exterior of the
garage on the way down to the sub it ties into. You could also
use a shunt trip breaker(s) for the PV circuit(s). If for some
reason you need to have the RSID on the main house, it gets
trickier. Might need to trench?
August
Luminalt
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I would appreciate ideas on how to shut down a proposed
microinverter system on a garage that is 100% serviced by an
Outback Radian multimode system in the main building that has
the garage on the back up service panel in the main building.
Garage has a MLO subpanel that is connected to the multimode
back up service panel that is in the main building.
If grid goes down, we need to disconnect the microinverter
array so it does not overcharge the battery system. If we use
the battery voltage relay, we will take out all the garage
circuits, which would disable its heating system, etc. We
just want to disconnect the microinverter circuit in the
garage subpanel.
Does anyone know of a product that could do this. I would
imagine a transmitter, or perhaps something else besides a
microinverter array?
Thanks for any help. Chris
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