So who has a good reliable off grid RSD? It all looks like failure prone
garbage to me.

Thank you,

-James Jefferson Jarvis
APRS World, LLC
+1-507-454-2727

(Sent from my phone. My apologies for spelling errors and brevity.)

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021, 05:02 Tump <t...@swnl.net> wrote:

> I would once again say that; we as an industry can influence not only the
> writing of the code but with what we are *buying* OR *not buying.*
> If the devices we are required to install to make things “more safe &
> reliable”, at the cost of our livelihoods & reputations, we all need to
> make the folks that are building the RSD crap and those who require
> installation of questionably safe & reliable crap aware of these problems.
> WE can thru either going to the code development  meetings AND NOT buying
> or installing this stuff. Not too easy when a huge amount of solar is
> rooftop installs. As many of the installers in the NE know its not a single
> level ranch were installing this stuff on, short season & man lift required.
> Tell your supplier why you are not buying that brand, let  your supplier &
> folks on the list what manufacture has good reliable products AND tech
> support that we can understand, who we can get in a timely fashion, and get
> the satisfaction of a prompt replacement.  IF we don’t sell it they won’t
> have a job or a market.
>
> On Aug 26, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Jeremy Coxon <jco...@sunwindpowerinc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Carl,
>
> Did you get any kind of joy out of APSmart on that failure?
>
> I will say that their tech support guy did at least try to be helpful, but
> the language barrier was really really steep and their distribution
> channels are less than ideal.  Their response to a request for compensation
> was that they would not be profitable if they had to pay for truck rolls
> for such a low cost item.  I really don’t think they GET IT.  We’ve been in
> business for over 16yrs and this one failure could easily have ended that
> run.
>
> I cannot imagine we’re alone here.  I was told by AP that their failure
> rate was 0.2%. Now, I come from a reliability engineering background in
> petro chemical/ big pharma where a 0.2% failure rate would be
> catastrophic.  Can you imagine that 2 out of every 1000 pills made could
> cause death?  We engineered secondary systems and multiple quality checks
> to contain catastrophic consequences for components that had know failure
> rates higher than acceptable values.  A simple solution to this fire
> initiation issue would be a metal enclosure instead of plastic casing.
> That still doesn’t really solve the problem of extra connections though.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jeremy Coxon NABCEP # 091308-21
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