Hi William, Thanks for posting the links to your studies. With CA NEM. 2.0 customers forced into TOU rate schedule, I have been wondering if you have done an analysis on whether TOU-C (peak 4-9 everyday) or TOU-D (peak 5-8 weekdays) is a better pair with solar?
https://www.pge.com/pge_global/common/pdfs/rate-plans/how-rates-work/Residential-Rates-Plan-Pricing.pdf I am leaning towards TOU-D but haven't done an in-depth analysis. Clearly there isn't going to be much solar generation during peak hours regardless. Thanks! Rebekah Tel: 336.266.8800 On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 9:54 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar < offgridso...@sti.net> wrote: > You guy's all know that utility is not going to get easier to understand. > It is going the other way and has been! Some of the AG solar guy's below me > in the greatest growing region in the world are probably the best. I can > dig up some of their names from the AG shows on radio KMJ in Fresno. The 5 > am AG show has alot of solar on it and you can stream it. > > I am away for a few days but will post something when I get back. Here is > a link to KMJ and to the AG solar company. > > https://www.kmjnow.com/on-air-schedule/ > > https://pickettsolar.com/industries/agribusiness/ > > > > *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > "we go where powerlines don't" > http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ <http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/> > e-mail offgridso...@sti.net <offgridso...@sti.net> > text 209 813 0060* > > On Sun, 2 May 2021 07:15:55 -0700, frenergy <frene...@psln.com> wrote: > > Jerry, > > That's the easy answer but this all gets really deep into > weeds as unless you're a PG&E smart meter (and we *really* trust them), > you don't know when that E-6 baseline is crossed to know when you're > getting or paying the higher rate. There's 2 things going on, baseline and > time-of-use. Customer usage, cloudy days plus other variables make a > precise calculation impossible. A customer might enter the > higher-than-baseline rate halfway into the month and then low consumption > and sunny days pulls the customer back below baseline, paying the lower > rate. > > So many headaches, William, I've tried to figure all this out > on paper but have relied more on raw experience of what works to zero-out > one's bill which with E6 can easily happen with less KWhrs produced than > consumed. > > I would love to talk to wrenches who can help me with decent > rates for AG pumping and the AG-solar destroyer: demand charges. > > Bill > > Feather River Solar Electric > Bill Battagin, Owner > 4291 Nelson St. > Taylorsville, CA 95983 > 530.284.7849 > CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net > > On 5/1/2021 3:16 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: > Wrenches > Currently with PG&E , you buy and sell at what ever rate you are on, Peak > = peak, off peak =off peak, > > On Sat, May 1, 2021, 3:02 PM William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> > wrote: > > Friends: > > > > After years of not quite understanding the intricacies of the newer, more > complicated utility rate schedules I have spent the last 72 hours diving > deeply into the rabbit hole. I have one question I need answered. Maybe > someone has the answer. > > > > If you are on a tiered electric utility rate I know you pay more for > energy after you exceed certain daily amounts—the baseline. I am clear > that if you avoid paying the higher rates, the value of the energy you > generate is equal to the money you save. However if you ratchet your daily > usage below zero and are net-exporting for part of a day, at what value are > you credited in an NEM contract? > > > > Is it: You get the baseline rate no matter how much energy you export. > > > > Or is it: After you export more than the baseline rate, you start getting > credited at the over-baseline rate. > > > > Or is it something different altogether. > > > > If anyone knows the answer to this arcane question I would be very > grateful to learn it. It may vary from utility to utility or plan to > plan. PG&E E-6 is the tiered rate I most commonly encounter. > > > > If any of you are particularly masochistic you can review some work I have > published on the subject here: > > > https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/case_studies/28_UtilityRates/UtilityRates.html > > > > This is an intricate subject and I believe anyone working in grid-tied > solar should have at least a passing familiarity with the topic. It > affects the realized benefits of investing in grid-tied solar. > > > > Thanks again for being the great group of friends that you are. > > > > William Miller > > > > Miller Solar > > 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 > > 805-438-5600 > > www.millersolar.com > > CA Lic. 773985 > On 5/1/2021 12:46 PM, William Miller wrote: > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. 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