The good LFP batteries all tell you max charge/discharge rate and that
in their specifications. Cascading of batteries usually widens these rates.


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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 16:37:12 -0400, Jason Szumlanski 
wrote:      I think what he means is that the battery lifespan will improve
with slower charging.   On that note, I have not seen much concrete
information on how high charge rates affect all of these newer lithium
batteries. They all claim outwardly that their battery can be charged fast,
because let's face it... that's what consumers want. But behind the scenes
they really want you to charge it slower (and not necessarily to 100%). How
fast is too fast is the question I always have.                      
  On
Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:54 PM Chris Mason  wrote:  >Lower charge rates are
more efficient both for the car's battery and the solar/ battery system I
don't get that. Our house battery is full at about 11 a.m., so we have
about four hours to charge the car. During that time we make about 6KW, so
the car uses 5KW of that and charges up. If I went to the 120V charger, I
would be charging all day and it still would not be charged.  
  On Mon,
Jun 8, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ray  wrote:   

Also have a customer with a Leaf
that can charge from a dual GVFX system. He uses the 120 vac charger. Lower
charge rates are more efficient both for the car's battery and the solar/
battery system, so I recommend sticking to the 120 vac chargers if
possible. 
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760
 On 6/7/20 6:04 PM, Darryl
Thayer wrote:  I was trying to charge a Nissan Leaf with a ? Iam not sure
but two VFX i think old age.. i mostly rember having the problem. I think
the car harger had a max of 2kw 
  On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 3:41 PM Jay  wrote:
 I've got offgrid 2 clients and they have no issues.    They each have a
Bolt and can choose the charging rate. They can run it at either power. But
only use higher power when they have lots of sun.  Older Stacked vfx and
Schneider xw, no issues.    I would expect the SW to work, however it's an
odd beast as it's waveform steps change with load. More load, more steps,
therefor cleaner so maybe at lower charge rate it's not clean enough.    As
to your issue it could be power factor Being really poor.  Can you tell us
what inverter, yea 5 years ago is a long time.        Jay   Peltz power.   
     
 On Jun 7, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Darryl Thayer  wrote:
      I think
you said it well, about 5 years ago I tried to charge a car from an
off-grid system. I did not record my events but the inverter had twice the
power of the level two charger, yet the inverter would get hot and trip
out. I was told a ferroresonant transformer may help, and it might be
different with different cars. However, I was warned the ferroresonant was
to stop input wave problems from arriving at the output not to prevent the
output wave problems showing up on the input. The off-grid customer gave
up.  
  On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:36 AM Hilton Dier III  wrote:   

The
issue with EV chargers is that they create a lot of reactive power. Think
of it as "slosh" in the waveform. That means that charging at 2,000 watts
sloshes a lot more than 2kW through the cable, plug, outlet, and from the
inverter. If you've got a reasonably good sinewave inverter the charger
will like it fine. However, the inverter might not like the charger if you
cut things too close. Make sure to have a lot of top end left in your
inverter. Always use a transformer based inverter. The SW series has a big
chunk of metal in it, so that's good. At 120V the Bolt will only draw 1440
watts max.

An aftermarket Bolt 240V charger can draw up to 32 amps. That's
7.7 kW, so too big for an SW. Treat it more like 40 amps. The OEM 120/240
EVSE (smart charging cord) that comes with the car can draw 8 or 12 amps at
120V or 12 at 240V. Assume that the 8 amps is really 12 and the 12 is
really 15 or a bit more. I have seen 15 amp plugs and outlets with the hot
prong melting plastic around it. The plug on the OEM EVSE is 20A rated but
make sure your outlet is as well. 
-- 
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Missisquoi River
Hydro
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