Hi Ray, I'm curious, do you avoid have the FM100 on the Hub to avoid clients changing the programming or have you seen some other issues? I have some of them out there and they seem to be solid, all Hub 10.3 connected.
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:48 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar < offgridso...@sti.net> wrote: > I have little experience with arc fault detection because I do not use > them offgrid. Could it save one from starting a wildfire? My experience is > I have never had a ground mount start a wildfire and even a bad panel is > pretty contained in a failure. > > I just know that I make a small fortune replacing grid tie inverter AFD's > that failsafe in the no solar mode. Definitely do not want another way to > lose power offgrid. There are plenty already:) > > > > > > *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > "we go where powerlines don't" > http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ <http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/> > e-mail offgridso...@sti.net <offgridso...@sti.net> > text 209 813 0060* > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:03:11 -0700, Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi William, > > that warning isn't on the AFCI one, > > Jay > > Peltz power. > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 2020, at 10:41 AM, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> > wrote: > > Jay: > > > > On the FM100 landing page > <http://outbackpower.com/products/charge-controllers/flexmax-100>. The > warning is pasted below. > > > > *Due to the different voltage ratings, OutBack Power does not recommend > mixing the FM100-300VDC with the FM60 or FM80-150VDC controllers on the > same battery bank.* > > > > Interestingly the warning is not seen on the FM100 AFCI landing page > <http://outbackpower.com/products/charge-controllers/flexmax-100-afci>. > > > > I thought I saw this also in one of the Owner's manuals but I looked today > and can't find it there. Interesting... > > > > I have a client that wants to add a fourth PV array to a system with three > FM80s. This will require a fourth charge controller. Being able to run > smaller wire in the existing conduits is an attractive proposition, making > the FM100 a desirable approach. I now have to figure out if I can add the > FM100-AFCI (which is apparently the only version available) to a system > with three FM80s, and if I do, what do I do with the existing GFDI breaker > and how do I arrange the DC bond? There is a lot to consider here. > > > > BTW, I was told by a tech support person for an on-line sales firm that > the original FM100 did not have the AFCI but those units have been > discontinued. Now all FM100s have the AFCI capability. I am weighing if I > want AFCI if it is not required. My territory includes central California > wild lands so I suppose I should take advantage of any fire safety means at > my disposal... > > > > William > > > > > > *From:* Jay [mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 7:34 AM > *To:* will...@millersolar.com; RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback FM100 > > > > Hi William > > > > Yes downsizing breaker to meet load is no problem. And getting wire that > big into it with 1" KO is a pain. > > > > I'm pretty sure any hub will work, needs 3S mate > > > > Where in the manual did you find the "don't mix with other 60/80 > controllers? > > > > Jay > > > > Peltz power > > > > On May 15, 2020, at 12:46 AM, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> > wrote: > > Friends: > > > > I have occasion to try the FM100 charge controller. I am wondering of > anyone had found any quirks with implementing this device. I have a few > specific questions: > > > > 1. I want to avoid AFCI unless mandated. Will this be defeated if > I don't run the leads through the sense coil? (There is an AFCI and > non-AFCI version but I can't seem to find the non-AFCI version anywhere.) > > 2. I noticed the manual indicates you are not supposed to mix the > FM100 with the FM80 or 60 in the same battery system. This negates it for > one project I had in mind. I am curious as to why this is. Anyone know? > > 3. Will the FM100 work with a standard hub? > > 4. I suppose this unit requires a 125 amp breaker. If the PV array > cannot support that full 100 amps I might down-size the OCPD accordingly. > Anyone contemplate this question? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > William > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Mac Lewis *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates*
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