hi Everyone, and thanks for the support.

I took it apart and it is producing good sine wave up to the AC board but there 
is a black relay that is failing to close and it turns out that there is a 
light on the control board showing it is not even trying to close this relay, 
so that is why we are not seeing output at the terminals.  I propose to fit a 
new control board and hope that works.

This will be the second time I have been inside this inverter (since 2006) and 
maybe the fourth or fifth time I have replaced a board in a FX.  They are easy 
to work on, but my experience has been they do seem to need it.

cheers
Hugh
Scoraig
Scotland

> On 9 Mar 2020, at 18:20, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
> 
> We had one last year with a bad relay, the customer had been charging a Tesla 
> EV through it (pass through from the grid) and smoked the relay.  It was 
> pretty obvious, the clear relay cover was all covered on the inside with 
> burnt relay bits and smoke coating.
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
> On 3/9/20 12:13 PM, John Blittersdorf wrote:
>> 
>> Hugh,
>>    I have one at my guest cabin doing the same thing except that the meter 
>> on the mate says I have 119 vac but nothing at the AC Out terminal.  I think 
>> Kent might be right that it may be the AC output relay.  It is odd though 
>> that there is no error message in your case.  This inverter had been 
>> tortured by the last tenants of the cabin with bad generators.  I was 
>> actually going to go up there and check it out some more as it is warm 
>> today. No heat in the cabin.  
>> 
>> John Blittersdorf
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 1:00 PM Kent Osterberg <k...@coveoregon.com 
>> <mailto:k...@coveoregon.com>> wrote:
>> Hugh,
>> 
>> I've seen these symptoms before. The problem was a failed output relay on 
>> the ac board.
>> 
>> Kent Osterberg
>> Blue Mountain Solar
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/9/2020 9:25 AM, Hugh Piggott wrote:
>>> Hi Wrenches,
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone can tell me what is happening here?
>>> 
>>> I have an Outback VFX that I used for my own home from 2006-2018.  It’s a 
>>> 50Hz 240V unit, but similar otherwise to any other 48V VFX.  It was working 
>>> well when disconnected.  I needed to replace the inverter system for other 
>>> reasons.
>>> 
>>> I installed this for a neighbour recently on his 48V system, and it 
>>> apparently worked when I left the building.
>>> 
>>> Now it’s not working.  When “off” it shows a warning for temperatures 
>>> sensor - fair enough I did not install one.  Maybe when it gets connected 
>>> to a generator it will be found a sensor.  This is the only error or fault 
>>> with a yes.
>>> 
>>> When “on” it makes a reassuring buzz and both lights come up green and 
>>> there is no error or warning in the Mate.  Just one problem - no output.  
>>> 
>>> Another weird thing.  I go to the status menu and check meters  
>>> STATUS/FX/METER output voltage and it says “4V”.  So it knows that it is 
>>> not working but it appears to have no qualms or misgivings about this state 
>>> of affairs.  NO error, no warning, two green lights.
>>> 
>>> I tried rebooting with the battery fuse.  I tried resetting to factory 
>>> defaults.  No joy.
>>> 
>>> I suppose I will take it to pieces and try to figure out a hardware failure 
>>> but I wonder if anyone has seen this and can give me a clue?
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> Hugh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hugh Piggott
>>> Scoraig Wind Electric
>>> Dundonnell
>>> Ross shire
>>> IV23 2RE,  UK
>>> +44 77 1315 7600
>>> h...@scoraigwind.co.uk <mailto:h...@scoraigwind.co.uk>
>>> www.scoraigwind.co.uk <http://www.scoraigwind.co.uk/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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