Blake:


Thanks for sharing the data sheet.  The document applies to DC PV systems,
however, and I believe the discussion pertains to the AC inverter output.
Therefore the bulletin you attached does not apply here.



(Note also that this data sheet indicates you need to use two poles for any
application, ungrounded or grounded.  I believe that requirement was
usurped later on for Square D Heavy Duty switches, but again, that is for a
different application.)



I looked again at Square D general and heavy duty safety switches rated at
30 Amps and I could not find any reference that these switches are
continuous duty rated.  I still believe that for the application described,
the 125% rating has to be applied.



If, hypothetically, you could find a 30A disconnect that was continuous
duty rated, if it is fed by a 40 Amp breaker, as I believe would be
required, then the 30 Amp disconnect is still not suitable.  You can not
feed a 30 Amp rated device with more than 30 Amps.



Bottom line, a 30 Amp disconnect will not meet code on the described
project.



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*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Blake Gleason
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:20 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] 30 amp disconnect/40 amp breaker



Typically a fused disconnect can only handle 80% of it's nominal current on
a continuous basis.  Unfused disconnects are often 100% rated.  For
example, see attached Square D bulletin #3110DB0401R0410.



So, a 100% rated (unfused) 30A disconnect (at least, from Square D) should
be fine here, as long as your OCPD is provided elsewhere (eg, the breaker
you mentioned).



NEC 690.8(B)(1)(Exception) explicitly allows a 100%-rated device to be used
without multiplying the inverter output current by 125%.





On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:22 PM Greg <g...@remotepowerinc.com> wrote:

Fellow Wrenches,  I'm having a discussion with a utility engineer regarding
the following situation:

Installing a 6kW inverter that has a full rated output of 25 amps.  80% of
30 is 24.  That means to me I need to go up to a 40 amp breaker.  I'm
running #8 (continuous load 25 x 1.25 etc.)
The engineer believes I should use a 60 amp disco since it's on a 40 amp
breaker.  My thinking is I can use a 30 amp disco since it can not produce
more than 25 amps ever.

Do any of you have a reference that shows what I'm doing is okay? Not
okay?

Thanks again,
Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.

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