Howie,

I have now installed three Blue Ion systems (2 x 16 kwh and one 48kwh) and am very pleased with them. It's a complete package with clear instructions, all parts labeled, good technical support, and presents very well to the client when installed. BMS info is accessed online through the included and pre-programmed E-Gauge, which displays both BMS and consumption data. The BMS manages all charge functions; the inverters and controllers are overridden. I have only used them as upgrades to existing off grid systems with Magnum and Outback VFX hardware, but have an XW installation planned for early August.

Allan

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On 5/7/2019 2:17 PM, Howie Michaelson wrote:
Jerry, thanks for this recommendation. I've been looking at the Blue Ion, but for some reason they off my top tier choices. Have you integrated them with XW battery backup systems? How is the BMS info access? The one thing that I really like about the AES batteries is their integration with the Context comms (at least from what I've read here and elsewhere).
Does anyone else have experience with Blue Ion batteries? With XWs?
On a separate note, what are the real advantages of using the XW pro vs. the plus?
Howie Michaelson
Sun Catcher

On Fri, May 3, 2019, 5:32 PM Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com <mailto:jerrysgarag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Just my 2 cents, look at Blue ion from Blue Planet Energy, l have
    installed new and also switched over from other batteries, been
    very happy with performance

    On Fri, May 3, 2019, 2:30 PM Jason Andrade
    <ja...@westcoastsustainables.com
    <mailto:ja...@westcoastsustainables.com>> wrote:


        Howie,
        I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the
        Discover AES, I have a quad stack of the coupled to an dual
        stack of XW inverters and they are working great,
        As for another post comment that these companies are looking
        to be bought out, Discover is long time battery manufacturer
        and I feel pretty confident they will be here to honor the
        warranty.
        If you search YouTube you can see a video Discover and I did
        on my wood shop.
        Jason Andrade
        West Coast Sustainables

        >
        >
        >> Hi Folks,
        >> About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job.  The
        client is not a
        >> heavy user, but wants things done right more than being
        totally cost
        >> effective.
        >> We put in 14kW of net metered solar using SolarEdge and now
        he wants the
        >> backup component. This was significantly oversized for his
        use, but he
        >> wanted to be sure he was putting a bunch more back into the
        grid than he
        >> was using (making up for past profligate power usage).  We
        will be using a
        >> dual stacked XW 6848, mostly for enough backfeed capacity
        (we could wire
        >> in
        >> a transfer switch and only use 1 XW, but he'd prefer this
        setup instead).
        >> I have narrowed down my choice for batteries to either:
        >>
        >>   - (2) Iron Edison 200 amp hour batteries, or
        >>   - (3) Discover AES 130 amp hour batteries
        >>
        >> Advantages for the AES are that they integrate directly
        with the Schneider
        >> Xanbus network so the Conext battery monitor provides
        direct insight into
        >> the SOC and SOH of the batteries, and they have a slightly
        higher rated
        >> cycle life so higher lifetime energy capacity.
        >>
        >> Advantages of the IronEdison are they come in a larger amp
        hour size
        >> allowing for only needing 2 vs. 3 batteries, they have an
        integrated fuse
        >> and disconnect, and from my sources are 1/3 less in price.
        >>
        >> If anyone has any thoughts on any of this, or corrections to my
        >> comparison,
        >> I'd greatly appreciate it.

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