HI Michael,

Here is another option vs the shurflo.

I had someone buy this and so far its working well.  6 months now.
The shruflo is about $700, this one is $69.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Submersible-Deep-Solar-Well-Alternative-Solar-Battery-Water-Pump-Powerful/401447293005?hash=item5d781f904d:rk:16:pf:0

Its a direct copy/knockoff of the shurflo.

jay



> On Jan 8, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Michael Welch <michael.we...@re-wrenches.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill and all. Windy was having troubles getting this to post, so he asked 
> that I post it on his behalf:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I agree, mostly, with Jay. The Shurflo may last 1-3 years and it is difficult 
> and expensive to rebuild. It's a diaphragm pump like an RV pump and has a 
> brush motor. When the diaphragm wears or breaks, it instantly floods the 
> motor. It's 1980's technology. But it is efficient for low-flow rates.
> 
> The Hober items that I see listed on their Alibaba site are "solar pump 
> inverters" designed to power conventional 3-phase AC pumps. Jay explains, 
> but I will cut to the chase …>  You will need  many more PV watts than you 
> should need, and it will pump MUCH more water than you are calling for. The 
> pump cannot be slowed down to match your needs because that would kill its 
> lift capacity. That is the essential nature of conventional centrifugal pumps.
> 
> You should look for a helical rotor (HR) submersible, also called a screw 
> pump. It is not a centrifugal pump. It is positive displacement, like the 
> Shurflo, and will have similar efficiency, excellent for low volume high 
> lift. HOWEVER, it is brushless and long lasting. Instead of a vibrating 
> diaphragm, it has a metal helical rotor, just one moving part.
> 
> Lorentz and Grundfos SQ-Flex are the original successful HR submersibles, but 
> oversized and expensive for the low volume that you require.
> 
> There are several Chinese companies making HR submersible solar pumps that 
> are smaller, and cheap. Some of them are very good. SunRotor in USA sells 
> good ones and stands by them.*  
> 
> Windy
> Dankoff Solar Pumps (retired)
> Co-Author Solar Water Pumping (for publication 2019)
> 
> * My old motto:
> I stand behind my product. If I stand in front of it, it doesn’t work.
> 
> William Dorsett wrote at 04:44 PM 1/2/2019:
>  
>> Happy New Year Wrenches From a young lady who is trying to bring clean water 
>> to a village in Uganda:
>> 
>>         “ This is Rosanna Bauman from Garnett. I'd talked to you about 2 
>> years ago about solar pumps for our friends in Uganda. We installed the 
>> solar panels but are just now getting the money saved up for the 
>> well-drilling. We have clean water located 75 meteers below, no rock. 
>> Looking at a Shur-flo or a Hober. We can get the Hober shipped direct from 
>> China to Uganda DHL, plus it's about $200 less.  However, we would like some 
>> advice as to their reliability. We want something reliable. 
>> 
>> Have any of your Solar Wrenches used or heard of this company? Looking at 
>> using a 3000 liter/day pump to pump 1,000 liters, since it will be directly 
>> tied to solar power, no battery back-ups.
>> 
>> You're welcome to call me if you have questions!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>           Rosanna Bauman”
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts
>> 
>> Bill Dorsett
>> 
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