Never laid on my stomach, I just have kneel pad I use for lots of stuff but it works good here too.  I never get my face that close to the battery any way. Usually 2 to 3 ft is good.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
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On 8/1/18 2:21 PM, Glenn Burt wrote:

Interesting idea, but it looks like to service them you would have to lay on your stomach and get your face right in there? Not my idea of a good time!

-Glenn

*From:*RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On Behalf Of *Ray
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 3:32 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall crawl space

Article 110.26 covering clearances in front of electrical equipment applies.  I worked on a couple like that, and I didn't like it. Very hard to move the batteries, and Combined with H2S, you are in what OSHA considers a confined hazardous space.

Another way to use that crawl space is to build a trap door access from the floor above.  This can work really nicely, and put the batteries right under the inverter without violating article 110.26.  I think I saw a system that either Allan Sindelar or Windy Dankoff did like that. I've tried it a few times, and everyone (customers and inspectors) was happy. Here's a pic of some HUPs in a floor vault just below the inverter:

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 7/30/18 8:37 AM, Dana wrote:

    Safe working clearance is 6’-8”.

    I have been confronted with this issue in the past taking over
    other’s systems care. This is a head banger & a major safety issue
    if something goes bad. If the batteries are 18-20” tall that only
    leaves anther 28-30” between bottom side of the floor joist & the
    top of the battery. Your face is way too close to a battery esp.
    if there is an issue to address.

    The installation is bent over back-heavy move situation. I am
    assuming you have a dirt or gravel floor to move across?

    It seems like a good use of space up front but the reality of the
    install plagues you down the road.

    If it is WLA batteries it is the worst of situations.

    Even if this is not inspected, please avoid this situation.

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    *Jerry Caldwell
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    *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall crawl space

    Wrenches,

    I have a customer who wants to have batteries installed in a 4'
    tall crawl space / short basement. Are there any accessibility
    code issues with installing batteries in a crawl space? Does the
    NEC address this?

    Thanks,
    Jerry Caldwell




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