Peerless Premier (www.premierrange.com) has offered battery-ignition ranges now for about two years -- no AC power required. They need an 8-pack of double A cells, and can also be match-lit if you don't want to fool with the batteries. Chris Daum Oasis Montana Inc. 406-777-4309 406-777-0830 fax www.oasismontana.com
_____ From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:09 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven I just installed a system for some folks that found this range with no glow bar. The oven light and the spark ignition each take 2, 9 volt batteries so zero outside electric power source. http://uniqueoffgrid.com/product/unique-elite-30-off-grid-propane-range/ Those Canadians.... Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owner 4291 Nelson St. Taylorsville, CA 95983 530.284.7849 CA Lic 874049 www.frenergy.net On 9/19/2016 4:43 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: Solid advice from both Ray and Allan. Switching to a sine-wave inverter will solve the controller issue, but not the 300W glow bar draining the batteries. Switching to a Peerless-Premier would solve that problem, or use an old Wedgewood range like I do. My 6-burner/two oven gas Wedgewood from the early 40's works great, and will likely last for centuries, but it does take 4 gorillas to move the damn thing. It must weigh 600 lbs, although I've never weighed it. Brian AEE Solar From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 4:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven Kristopher, Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely to last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues. If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier (www.premierrange.com). As of my last contact with them a few years ago, they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were designed for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven. Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar. Allan Allan Sindelar <mailto:al...@sindelarsolar.com> al...@sindelarsolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc. 505 780-2738 cell On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote: Thanks Ray, This is a circa 2002 inverter. I may just tell them to go to a pilot light stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know). Kris On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters < <mailto:r...@solarray.com> r...@solarray.com> wrote: Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years. As soon as I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe. The good old DR inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years back in the 90s. I for the most part quit selling them though, as even though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature failures. I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the extra harmonic distortion. Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC connection at all. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer <tel:303%20505-8760> 303 505-8760 On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote: Hi Wrenches, I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the last few months. The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by a Xantrex DR1512. Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the appliance company supplied. Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the circuitry with the modified sine wave output)? Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably Whirlpool)? Thanks tons, Kris -- Shine On! 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