Ray: Nothing is more civilized than heated flush water!
William > On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Ray Walters <r...@solarray.com> wrote: > > I think the jet tub is the better way to go for off grid. You are only > heating the water and running the circ pumps a few hours/ week, and as Bill > mentioned: no chemicals. > I've tried all of the choices, and while hot water alone is nice, having the > massage bubblers is definitely better. Not having chemicals and/ or nasty > recirculated bacteria is also much better than regular hot tubs. Off grid > folks don't have to do with out modern conveniences, instead they can do it > even better. > If you wanted to get savvy, you could recycle the water after to a grey water > cistern dedicated for toilet flushing and irrigation. > R.Ray Walters > CTO, Solarray, Inc > Nabcep Certified PV Installer, > Licensed Master Electrician > Solar Design Engineer > 303 505-8760 > On 3/3/2015 7:30 AM, Bill Loesch wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> >> Great alternative and proven solution. Moreover, the sanitation aspect to >> heat the water once per use all but eliminates the prospect of breeding >> "bugs" in the stagnant warm water. It is my understanding that spas/hot tubs >> that continuously reheat the same water need to have chemicals added to keep >> them sanitary (at least that is the way it works here for a public spa/hot >> tub). >> >> One other item, necessary to mention for all the rest of us not living in >> the relatively mild CA/coastal climate-since the tankless stores no heated >> water all tankless water heaters are subject to freezing conditions. Oh, >> yes, one can take on Mother Nature and add electric heaters, anti-freezing >> firing, etc. but for real world practicality, don't subject water to >> freezing conditions. Solution: mount the tankless inside the heated >> structure and run the hot tub line through a freeze protected faucet. >> >> Thanks for sharing, Brian, >> Bill Loesch >> Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar >> 314 631 1094 >> On 02-Mar-15 1:15 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: >>> Hey Allan, >>> >>> For many years, my wife and I have been using an old 6’ long claw-foot tub >>> as our hot tub on the mountain. The 6’ tub is large enough, but very cozy >>> for two people. We just run straight hot water from our Aquastar propane >>> water heater into it, which gets it very hot. It takes a little time to >>> let it heat up the cast iron tub, which cools it down just enough >>> for a great soak. It stays hot for a pretty long period of time, but If it >>> gets too cool, we just run more hot water into it. >>> >>> Then we just use the gray water for garden irrigation the next day. No >>> chemicals, filters, or electricity needed. >>> >>> Brian Teitelbaum >>> AEE Solar >>> >>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On >>> Behalf Of Allan Sindelar >>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:05 PM >>> To: RE-wrenches >>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Chofu Hot Tub Heater >>> >>> Wrenches, >>> I have an off grid client who wants a hot tub, and would prefer a propane >>> heater rather than wood. The Chofu appears to be the only unit that doesn't >>> require a circulation pump. He had located this on his own, but told me >>> that "The propane fired, self igniting, hydrosiphoning Chofu is no longer >>> available domestically. Seems the Japanese do not wish to export these to >>> the USA anymore. I will keep looking as this was the most sane idea for >>> the project and of course cheapest. Chofu listed on Island Hot Tub is >>> currently unavailable. I talked to him a week ago and it sounded like there >>> was no availability for the foreseeable future." >>> >>> Does anyone have a line on where one can be located before they're all >>> gone? Or a good alternative? >>> >>> Thanks, Allan >>> -- >>> >>> Allan Sindelar >>> al...@sindelarsolar.com >>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional >>> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional >>> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician >>> Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc. >>> 505 780-2738 cell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List-Archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9212 - Release Date: 03/02/15 >>> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9217 - Release Date: 03/03/15 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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