Batteries are the big limiting factor off-grid around here.
We do not have consistent enough wind to rely on.
Dan Fink
Buckville Energy
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~ PV Installation Professional
~ Small Wind Installer
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On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Hugh Piggott <h...@scoraigwind.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes I agree but PV is getting so cheap! We do keep our gas stove, but
> most of our cooking is being done in the halogen oven. This is a big
> glass bowl that doesn't look as if it is more than a passing gimmick, but
> literally most of our cooking has happened in it over the last year. Try
> it!
>
> Having a huge windmill that doesn't ever seem to break (weird?) helps of
> course.
>
> By the way in case anyone thought the second inverter was a problem for
> our dishwasher... that's not what I meant to say, but the washer and most
> of our stuff ran fine on just one VFX. The second one is just good for
> peak usage and the fact that there is another house connected.
>
> good times! My favorite thing (almost) about renewable energy is the fact
> that sometimes there is way too much of it.
> Hugh
>
> On 7 Dec 2014, at 16:43, frenergy wrote:
>
> Hugh,
>
> We've done a similar scenario around here the last several years,
> even charging an electric car. However, there is certainly more to the
> story than an added inverter, eh? I've also added PVs (lots for the
> car) from the days of heavy propane use. And I know that some of the
> incentive to reduce the use of propane and add electric appliances is that
> occasionally we'll have a great hydro year ("Omigosh the batteries are
> boiling, there's 4KW coming in from PV and 600 watts at the hydro...buy
> that convection oven...do some electric space heating!!)
>
> For us the dance has been to have both available so, rather than
> run the genny, use a little propane to cook or whatever.
>
> A halogen oven? uh, oh I guess I'm still living under a rock.
> Help me with that one.
>
> Bill
> Taylorsville
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Hugh Piggott <h...@scoraigwind.co.uk>
> *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] New washers and dishwashers on inverter
> power -any problems?
>
> We have a pair of VFX inverters and we run an LG dishwasher which is great
> - quiet direct drive - uses about 0.7kWh for a wash (and about 0.2 per 24
> hours sitting there looking inert :-() It worked fine before the second
> inverter was added actually. As did the induction hob and the halogen
> oven. Both great ways to save on propane gas consumption. In fact we
> hardly use gas any more. We just bought a 3kW electric oven, and so long
> as the wind is blowing that's available too.
>
> It seems to me that using propane to avoid using renewable energy is
> backward thinking these days. LPG is the last resort for us.
>
> Hugh
>
> On 4 Dec 2014, at 01:14, Dave wrote:
>
> I'm looking at Bosch # 16083 ($ 765) dishwasher - any problems running
> this on OutBack inverter power?
> and also a Samsung, or LG, front load clothes washer. I'm a little gun shy
> with these fancy machines because of all of their electronic controls as I
> have memories of the Maytag Neptunes several years ago being a horror show
> on inverter power.
> Thanks for your input,
> Dave Palumbo
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Dan Fink
> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 8:21 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Appliances for off-grid home
> Hi Dave;
> The last couple times I speced dishwashers for off-grid clients, I ended
> up doing it right from EnergyGuide ratings. No longer have to order
> expensive stuff from Europe or Australia, some USA-made models are right in
> there.
> Battery spark ignition propane ranges are still very limited --
> Premier/Peerless is OK, so is Summit Appliance, but with Summit customer
> service and spare part availability are dismal. Unique OffGrid (Canada)
> looks really nice, but I'm waiting for someone else to try them before I
> recommend them. I may guinea pig myself on Unique. Everything else I've
> tried has been just plain awful....oven thermostats that need replacing
> every couple years, leaky valves, etc. They are cheap and intended for
> cheap apartment landlords who buy them 30 at a time.
> I require sealed burners, and a solid burner great is awesome.
> If your client doesn't need an oven, there are plenty of fancy expensive
> drop-in cooktops at the high-end foodie kitchen stores, but all the wall
> ovens I've found there have a glowbar.
> Finally, there's marine galley stoves and ovens. But very pricey, and tiny
> ovens. You're paying for gimballed mounts that you only need on a boat.
> Best of luck.....
>
> Dan Fink
> Buckville Energy
> IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
> ~ PV Installation Professional
> ~ Small Wind Installer
> NABCEP / IREC / ISPQ Accredited Continuing Education Providers™
> 970.672.4342
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Dave <d...@independentpowerllc.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a recommendation for an efficient dishwasher to be powered
> by an OutBack inverter.
> Also, I need to buy another LP gas range for off-grid use. I have been
> using the Peerless-Premier line because they could be ordered without the
> electric glow bar in the oven. Are they any more choices these days in LP
> ranges?
> Thanks,
> Dave
> David Palumbo
> Independent Power LLC
> 462 Solar Way Drive
> Hyde Park, VT 05655
> 802-888-7194
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