I couldn't agree more Bob-O
Pharmaceutical company? Ethics?  Opps.
I thought Schneider buying them would help, but they have no idea what they're even selling these days. Have you seen their website? I can't even find a spec sheet for the TR in all that "Solutions for PV systems" mumbo jumbo. Amazing that the Trace equipment line that basically put PV on the map, is the bottom of the heap now. I like your 3C term. I'll put that in our dictionary near PITA ( pain in the a__ ) factor.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 4/30/2013 5:54 PM, Bob-O Schultze wrote:
The TR is a classic example of what I call 3C. Cheap Chinese Crap. If Xantrex 
had any ethics at all they would have killed that line and refunded everyone's 
dough years ago.
Bob-O

On Apr 30, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Kent Osterberg wrote:

Ray,

I've got a customer that has the same problem with a dual TR inverter system. 
When we first complained, Xantrex promised they were working on a fix. That 
never materialized and now the TR is out of production. It's a lousy product 
and customer service has been the same. A few months ago, I was asked to 
participate in a survey regarding Xantrex products and service. My responses 
must have got someone's attention because I got a follow-up call about the 
survey. There never has been a follow-up to correct this customer's problem 
inverter.

Kent Osterberg
Blue Mountain Solar, Inc.
www.bluemountainsolar.com
t: 541-568-4882

On 4/30/2013 3:19 PM, Ray Walters wrote:
Hi Folks:

I just finished up another ugly rewire project for a customer that had 
another"installer" put in a Xantrex TR inverter.
We fixed numerous wiring issues, including neutral bonded to ground in 7 
different places!
The issue we're having now though, is that the TR inverter output voltage 
fluctuates when running CF lighting, and the refrigerator.
You can literally see the lights cycling brighter and dimmer, and hear the 
compressor on the fridge running up and down in frequency. Xantrex/ Schneider 
Tech support said that:
A) The TR doesn't do well with CF lighting, and that we should switch to all 
incandescent........ hmmmm.
B)  We should set the search watts to zero (which I already did)
C) We need to increase the loads on the TR, as it doesn't regulate output 
voltage and frequency very well at lower loads........ 2nd big hmmmmm.

I knew there was a reason I quit installing Xantrex inverters about 5 years 
ago, but I couldn't recall the details.  Now its all coming back to my feeble, 
aging brain.  So aside from switching out the inverter , (which I just 
installed on a beautiful Midnite E-Panel) does anybody have any cures for our 
ills?  How would LED lighting behave?  Should I throw a capacitor across the 
output? or perhaps I should just retire early and sail around the Caribbean? (I 
can afford a canoe/ no sail......)

As always, thanks in advance for this wonderful technical (and emotional) 
support group,

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